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Most of mankind/ society did not ever get delivered from the deception(s) of the enemy of Christ. How did, as written, and as said by JESUS< "a few" find the narrow road to ETERNAL LIFE while "many" are always on the wide road to destruction ? We all were lost once, and now in Christ Jesus are saved who live and abide in HIM, but how was such grace delivered to us in HIM while so many chose and remain in utter darkness ?! >>>>>>>>>>> YEAH! HALLELUYAH !!!! ~----------- >>> How did ABRAHAM and the ISRAELITES, all the PROPHETS and all the followers of YAHWEH ECHAD know, how did they KNOW, HE is the ONE TRUE GOD, and HIS WORD (TORAH) is PERFECT and TRUSTWORTHY FOREVER ? They did not see the PROMISE, yet BELIEVED...... They did not see all the prophecies fulfilled, if even any of them..... yet BELIEVED (the faithful ones who did not turn back to idolatry or to rebellion against YAHWEH ... )

angels4u: "The Apostle Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells us that we ought to have the same mind about things that Jesus has. In telling us we "ought," he is also telling us that we can.". Amen and HALLELUYAH ! MARANANTHA ! COME QUICKLY LORD JESUS ! As we have seen almost exponentially getting worse since this was posted in 2002. (where's bob? )

God's Grace is needed, even to seek God, as well as to follow Him, and to hear Him. Worthy Christian Library » A.W. Tozer » Pursuit of God Chapter 1: Following hard after God My soul followeth hard after thee: thy right hand upholdeth me. Psalms 63:8 Christian theology teaches the doctrine of prevenient grace, which briefly stated means this, that before a man can seek God, God must first have sought the man. Before a sinful man can think a right thought of God, there must have been a work of enlightenment done within him; imperfect it may be, but a true work nonetheless, and the secret cause of all desiring and seeking and praying which may follow. We pursue God because, and only because, He has first put an urge within us that spurs us to the pursuit. ‘No man can come to me,’ said our Lord, ‘except the Father which hath sent me draw him,’ and it is by this very prevenient drawing that God takes from us every vestige of credit for he act of coming.

In an assembly of ekklesia, you would not be permitted to speak, not as you speak against Yahweh , His Son, and His messengers. First you would be silenced, then banished, until you repented. We are not going to listen to the voice of another, Because as Jesus Says in HIS WORD the ekklesia listen to and follow Jesus, and we won't learn from another voice (not from any other voice , especially opposed to HIS WORD) .....

No, you don't believe the Bible. You routinely discard/disregard the parts that don't fit your approach. You don't accept the Bible as 100% true and inerrant/infallible. I a have no doubt you are led by "a" spirit, but if you were led by the Holy Spirit, you would believe the whole Bible. (appropriately quoted/edited from other poster/ other thread)

Amen and HALLELUYAH !!!!!!! Jesus Says who are MY mother and brother and sister ? Whoever HEARS the WORD OF GOD, and DOES IT. Whoever does the WILL of the FATHER IN HEAVEN (as HIS WORD (TORAH, PROPHETS, PSALMS, and NEW TESTAMENT) SAYS) though not by the 'letter' of the law, but by the SPIRIT of the Law in Christ Jesus. (His Way, His Reasons, His Motives, His Time (obedient to HIM) ) .

This is mild compared to how Yahweh in Yahweh's Word describes society (all society).

and/or as Jesus says simply "come unto ME, to learn from ME , and I WILL GIVE YOU REST FOR YOUR SOUL, and NOURISHMENT" JESUS came to seek and to save those who are lost. To save, TO HEAL, completely.

Why do you pollute this forum like you did christianforums.com ? (for years) Repent to Yahweh (not to us, not first anyway); ask YAHWEH for a clean heart, and for cleansing from sin, and for truth, for HIS UNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE.

Did Cain have a list ? What did Yahweh tell Cain ? Did the disciples have a "list" ? They all knew what sin was. Rebellion Thus, when anyone rebels against Yahweh, when anyone rejects Jesus, when anyone corrupts Yahweh's Word and rejects it, when anyone rejects the Scripture OR the Apostles who Yahweh called, chose, set apart, and sent and delivered HIS MESSAGE thru, they are in REBELLION, headed for the lake of fire with the scribes and the pharisees who rebelled .

To say you can decide what sin is, or that they can, is a sin and is what has apparently deceived you for so long. (as you have admitted by claiming the same thing on several posts just in the last week on this forum) .

Go ahead then, Name one, ( any size ?) perversion that you think IS NOT A SIN .

So ? If you remain sinning you cannot evade being sinful by saying that non-sinning is not sinful. As long as anyone remains in sin, they are sinful and in need of repentance. As long as anyone promotes sin and teaches others to sin, they will receive a greater judgment, especially if and when they cause little ones to stumble/ sin/ or worse. As long as anyone does not repent of sin, they have no forgiveness for their sin, regardless if it is a "small sin" or a gross abomination against God and others.

How long have you been accepting perversion, trying to define sin instead of believe what Yahweh says ? How long have you been rejecting Jesus and Paul and Yahweh's Word ? (as many have warned you about in just the last week even)

Jesus warned the scribes and pharisees that even though they might be immersed in Scripture every day, it would not help them since they rejected Him. When anyone rejects Paul, they reject Jesus first. When anyone rejects Scripture, they reject Yahweh...

Perversion is always sin. Approving of perversion is always sin. The defiled thing(s) you posted about your neighbors lives is sin for your neighbors, and it is sin to approve of them.

GOOD ! GREAT ! If you do, you then realize that all perversion including all gay-ness (sexual sin) is sin. Just like YAHWEH'S WORD SAYS that Gill agrees with ! WONDERFUL ! TRUTH ! HALLELUYAH ! And your mind has been healed too ? You realize that sin is what YAHWEH SAYS IT IS ? GREAT if SO !

You haven't addressed anything Scripturally. (as several have noted and tried to reach you over a long time, apparently). The loss(es) you suffered in life, perhaps those affected you, but you let it affect you and turn you away from Yahweh instead of towards Him; you turned away from His Word, instead of to His Word (maybe a preacher hurt you? I don't know); but you turned against God's Word, you rejected it , and that is never the right direction, no matter what excuse you use.

Most people just don't struggle - they're told not to believe Jesus said that, and so they don't believe Jesus said that(or they're told it is not really His commandments) - so easy for now for them, so hard later when they find out the Truth, and until then. Just trust and rely on the Father to accomplish all, believe Jesus' Word, ask the Father in Heaven for HIS understanding (which He JOYOUSLY GIVES to little children) ...

LIVING STONES ! HALLELUYAH ! YES! HE DOES......

JESUS and the Apostles and many if not most disciples knew and honored TORAH, PAUL INCLUDED, and TORAH , the PROPHETS and PSALMS all are about JESUS ! They all proved to the Jews they preached to JESUS IS MESSIAH FROM TORAH, PROPHETS and PSALMS! THEY LIVED < LIVED > the NEW TESTAMENT (see how much is written that DESCRIBES THEIR POWERFUL LIVES/ TESTIMONY in JESUS) . (and btw, how different ("church") it became within 300 years - how it lost power and became "form of religion") ...

Actually a number of people get depressed from a dietary deficiency. Before 1950 many were relieved from depression for the rest of their lives when they were treated properly, with no drugs, but by testing to see what was deficient. It was very effective and inexpensive and nontoxic, unlike today (since 1960) . Spiritual reasons can cause depression also. The believers in the New Testament were set free from depression when they were healed by Jesus - it is written they lived daily with continual (not temporary) righteousness, peace and joy. This did not change with circumstances (like being beaten, arrested, imprisoned, and executed: i.e. minor things) ..... This was lost testimony long ago , around the 3rd or 4th century , when the 'church' became mostly a "form of religion" and people denied the truth. (Jesus Power/ Healing/ Salvation), but it is still truth, and still seen today where Jesus' Power is present.

This would be sinning , for "Always say 'Yes.', but even more for the motive: "the method that business leaders use".... As Yahweh NEVER uses the method you are trying to promote or teach or share, and Yahweh ALWAYS says in His Word DO NOT LEARN NOR USE the ways of the [sinning, dead in sin] world, the pagan gentiles, or rebellious defiled souls.

If you knew Scripture, if you received understanding from Jesus or the Father of Scripture, if you honored Scripture, you would know already that Jesus Revealed the Truth to Paul, the one called and chosen by YAHWEH as YAHWEH's messenger; and that YAHWEH confirms by YAHWEH'S SPIRIT , and by ALL SCRIPTURE, that Paul's letters in SCRIPTURE are BREATHED , GUARDED, and CONFIRMED by YAHWEH all the time, always, as is all SCRIPTURE GOD BREATHED. If you learned from yourself, as you posted, that is the only evidence needed, as you admit you did not learn from YAHWEH nor from HIS SPIRIT , nor from JESUS and that you do not listen to JESUS, nor follow JESUS in this life. Your own words have now admitted this several times on two or more forums, in several threads and posts.

'Tis not I you disobey that is of any consequence, since you admit throughout your posts you don't obey and won't obey God, it is true that your relationship with God is not affected - He Says He does not hear the prayer of someone who believes in their heart that sin is okay "considers sin in their heart" ...... so where there was no relationship of sonship, there remains no relationship. This is true also, "We" of course referring to you and the one you listen to , not Yahweh. If you listen ever, to Yahweh, then turn to Him, to do as He Says, as His Word Says clearly, as you have repeatedly rejected, and as several here and on other forums have shown you over and over with no repentance apparently - no turning to Yahweh to listen to Yahweh, but you apparently do listen to some 'god', just not the One True God.