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Wow i read this whole thread and learned that the best way to deal with an argumentative person is to first check urself and motives. Possibly talk with them gentley. Treat them kindly no matter what. Or you derail.....haha

O thanks my phone is acting crazy

Gdemoss well said, its more about the relationship the Christian has (or lack thereof). He wants a personal relationship with each of us. Honestly, this scripture gives me the heebeegeebees bc it challenges ME to exam my relationship with the Lord. Periodically i think about am I truly putting God first and loving Him with all my heart mind soul and strength, or am I doing my routine, cheking of my prayer list, going through the motions. Am i really allowing Holy Spirit to take every part of me and conform it to Jesus. But MOST of all have I really Gotten TO KNOW Him better this week. What did I leanr new about Him this week. He is looking for a deep love relationship us more than anything. Thats my my boo for you.

The Spirit of the Lord will bring the revelation that things are not always going to be awesome and that God does ask us to make some choices that are hard. I hope were still talking about young Christians its like child raising do you tell your one yr old baby every single thing they need to know in a crash course of 6-12 weeks...AND expect them to walk it out. I think the Lord understands thay babes in Christ dont know it all. He will teach them and they will grow and mature it might be slow. Just like watching children grow and mature. Your older in the Lord so God requires more from you. Just like parent would require more from thier 10 yr old than they would the 5yrs old. I think thats could be what ur observing. I honestly like that God sets it up that way He is gentle

So some of you may have to think long and hard about this.... By the way shout out to Sinnersaved for posting Do we understand the cost of following Jesus. Bc of that post im starting this one. ...do you remember the first week or four or more after you gave your life to the Lord. I remember mine. I remember so awesomely. May 8th i re-dedicated my life to God i had an encouter with Him He held my hand that day and has been it holding ever since. But for a year life was a bowl full of great. It seemed that every prayer was yes and God did awesome things. 1. I got an A in a class I did practically zero work for. I went to Him and He said repent to the professor then ask for extra credit. 2. I had amazing word time 3. A dear friend came to Christ after I prayed and asked her to come to Bible Stusy with me 4. I was generally happier 5. Got the jobs i prayed for 6. The apartment i prayed for 7. Got to live with the friends to wanted to live with. Wow so much more....in my church we call it the honeymoon period when God allows you see His goodness and faithfulness with out much being required....ya know being a babe in the Lord. As you grow and mature in Gods word He starts requiring you to use the wisdom He has given you and put the word into practice. I also remember this day as well....but thats another post. Happy posting yall

So some of you may have to think long and hard about this.... By the way shout out to Sinnersaved for posting Do we understand the cost of following Jesus. Bc of that post im starting this one. ...do you remember the first week or four or more after you gave your life to the Lord. I remember mine. I remember so awesomely. May 8th i re-dedicated my life to God i had an encouter with Him He held my hand that day and has been it holding ever since. But for a year life was a bowl full of great. It seemed that every prayer was yes and God did awesome things. 1. I got an A in a class I did practically zero work for. I went to Him and He said repent to the professor then ask for extra credit. 2. I had amazing word time 3. A dear friend came to Christ after I prayed and asked her to come to Bible Stusy with me 4. I was generally happier 5. Got the jobs i prayed for 6. The apartment i prayed for 7. Got to live with the friends to wanted to live with. Wow so much more....in my church we call it the honeymoon period when God allows you see His goodness and faithfulness with out much being required....ya know being a babe in the Lord. As you grow and mature in Gods word He starts requiring you to use the wisdom He has given you and put the word into practice. I also remember this day as well....but thats another post. Happy posting yall

The first thing that comes to mind is the letter kills but the Spirit of the Lors brings life. I mean being overly legalistic. A relationship with the Lord is a heart issue. He is the one who is the healer of heart and binds up all thier wounds. In my church as you develop your relationship with the Lord a more mature Christian is there to help you see your life meaning thoughts actions and decisions after the God sees it. I can tell you personally after 1 month of walking with the Lord I realized the cost. But by that time I wanted Him more than anything else and still do.

I understand but what about Her pastor the person that God placed over her...He may not say the same thing any over are saying. If He truly is following the Lord he is going to say what Gods will is. We have to repsect the authorities God has placed over us. I gp back to my original statement that sharing these very difficult times with many can continue to aid in confusion. Zion I think you should leave us out of it and let her Spiritual Mother and Father handle it whether it be continue praying, counseling, or divorce. And let this be done without every ones opinion. This has been a great discussion but i dont feel comfortable adding more, this is outside my jurisdiction Love u Zion Im praying May God come throug expediently

I think Jeff might have been trying to add more love. after praying about this the scripture "after you have done all stand therefore" came to mind. One preacher put it this way, the Roman army in battle would slay every enemy they could find and when a soldier thought he was finished in battle he would look around for more enemies. Hot. sore. tired. achy. In general pain. But they stood therefore. Although I agree with you Zion, the truth should be said in love. Jeff's last post may actually be what God is saying. I would be cold bloodedly honest with myself bc God sees the heart of man. And make sure that there isnt any resentment, anger, unforgiveness, I know this can be hard in any type of relationship, but is she seeing him after the Spirit not after the flesh? Like Jeff said confess positive instead of negative....this helps to renew your mind. As a mother i felt nothing towards my son and was heavily considering giving him for adoption. I spoke with some leaders at my church and they said meditate on love scriptures and confess positive things. O gosh there were times id be in public whispering those scriptures so i didnt lose it. And at first it was hard to confess right things about my son....i had to really work hard it...i spent a lot of time quiet.... if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it all....ya kno. Now he is five i love this kid with all I have and I know God put it there. I cant say one negative about him. I dont see life with out him either. Gods word is alive and active like a double edge sword dividing bone and marrow soul and spirit. She can do all the right things but from what i can tell in this post her heart is not in it. There has to be a point where we decide that GODS WILL be done regardless of how we feel. Jesus is the perfect example one of my favorite images of His level of obedience and honor to God. He said with blood dripping from His brow Father if there be any other way.....the best part....God was Silent......then Jesus said not my will but urs b done and He died on the cross for us. It wasn't based on His feeling or even His beloved desciples who would have preferred He stay alive. Again she has to choose. Her heart attitude could be what God is working on. Anyway srry about Jeffs last reply, I quoted him but.... After giving this my heart i think Go to leadership if we aren't able to here God bc our emotions are in the way then we go to leadership. Other posters are right about the host of issues this will cause the children if it isnt the Lords will. Keep listening out for Him....He will make it super clear. We may not always get the answer we want but He answers every time.

At this point honestly i would fast for three days and ask God to give me a response and seek His face bc im not going to be doing anything He doesn't want me to do.

Counseling is a great option and will soon be my profession. Some questions to ask when considering a counselor Should they be Christian Does this person have a long lasting marriage themselves If not do they have a understanding of the Bible if they Christian and are decoted to saving marriages More importantly do u want to save the marriage just like in Fireproof yes I know its a movie but its real. Are U gonna do the word and allow God to do a work in U forget about the other person. Let God deal with them and . It may be through how u behave.

We always should speak the truth but in love, Correction is important but it needs the love cushion

Im not married and never have been...so my opinion may not count.....but is she getting beat? is he continuously cheating on her? Bc those are the only two reasons i know of that can legitimately even CONSIDER divorce. I dont know the full story but it sounds like her love tank is empty? Is it possible to consider spending more time in Gods word about He is truly the Husbandmen and even Head over her husband. Reach out to Him to fill the places where shes dry. At the end of the day her husband cant be love to her he wasnt meant to be thats Jesus's job. She can tell God to striaghten him out. Also is it possible for her to read the Five Love Languages of God book. SOMETIMES we have to sow the very thing we are looking for and even into the person we aren't liking. Also consider the fact that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. And we love Him bc He first loved us. Love is by decision its not a feeling. 1 Cor 13 4-8 says it best Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. Look at each word and phrase they are all choices. Now is it possible that her husband was not Gods choice sure....but we dont want our feelings telling us that. We want God telling us. In my short service to the Lord I have found that by doing His Word and waiting on His response by two or more witnesses works wonders. Like Enoob said he may come around to loving Christ more if she did her part in the Word. It happened to Smith Wigglesworth. And there is freedom in knowing that she can put her foot down and humbly disagree with her husband if he is not putting God as head over the house hold and submit to his decision making all the while telling God to convict his heart. Kennith Hagin talks about this. I would actually put my God at His Word and see what He has to say about it. I also wouldn't be talking much about it with too many people maybe one or two trusted friends who would partner with me prayer as well. To find out what God is truly saying. To many opportunities for the enemy to get in there causing confusion. Which God is not the author of. Then i would purpose in my heart that no matter what I will praise Him and be a doer of His Word towards my husband. Also i would try talking with Him about it but that may not work and ur still faced with choosing to love him anyway. I would specifically pray against marriage destroying Spirits like pride contention miscommunication misunderstanding dishonor and other attitudes. Marriage is supposed to be a testimony of how Jesus responds to the church and how the church responds back so protect it with prayer. I would also pray for my husband more than I have been. I would repent for anyway that I have contributed to the issue and purpose before God that I will be the solution and ask Him to keep me accountable. At the end of the day I said vows before God. He would be looking at my heart and judging me based on my heart response. We cant change other people but we can change out responses. SOMETIMES thats how God works on our flesh and molds us to be more like His son. I will pray for her

Thank u Davida

I love praying Gods perfect will. If i didnt have a job i might pray somethig like Lord you know the begining from the end. I lean upon you to lead to my next job. Thank u for opening up opportunities u want me to have. Closing every door you dont want to walk through. I know you love me and ur desire is to provide for me. Thank you Lord that my next job meets my every need. You have made me to be the lender not the borrower you o ut me above and not below. I thank you for blessing me the specific job u want me to have. Amen.