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How important is confession and repentance for a Christian?
Emanuel replied to Ddavid from NC's topic in General Discussion
If confession and repentance of familiar sin after Salvation is not based on the Crucified life: A dying to the old nature that is recurrent; then it is not true repentance. True repentance after receiving Jesus Christ at Salvation will seek out the crucified life necessary against the familiar sin - to become delivered thereby in the carnal soul. Note 'words and tears' mean nothing if they do not transfer into a new lifestyle against the familiar sin. Therefore in other to develop the new life in ones soul out from the new Spiritual Condition within - Christ in Us, then Salvation translates through the > Cross > Overcoming > Experience > Capacity of good > Mark of the Lamb. (note the growing capacity to do good versus the end product of the mark of the Lamb at death) This capacity of good developed in ones soul against or in opposition to ones familiar sin is the inheritance in the growth process. Rooted and built up in Christ > Therefore true confession and repentance of ones familiar sin, will seek out in prayer and in lifestyle, a new door way of escape, through the trial and temptation whereby the same sin will NOT gain power over the individual. Do we not see that overcoming our mammon is our potential individual inheritance in GOD? It is something to deal with in this life. We all have in us as individual certain growing capacity of good due to the trial and temptations relating to our mammon that we have overcome until death. Be not deceived if the words of confession and repentance is not leading you into a new lifestyle opposite to your mammon: THOUGHTS > WORDS > WORKS AND DEEDS > LIFESTYLE > Capacity of good should focus on the 'fruit of the Spirit' as in the culminating works which would work against the individuals’ mammon. This should focus on the end progress of the soul dependent on Christ in You. ‘Rewarded according to their works?’ Not the single act or work but a lifetime of works and deeds through trials and temptations overcome in relation to ones mammon; that has formed an end process or capacity of good – capacity of ‘fruit of the Spirit’ – in the soul at death. This is the culminating works due to the overcoming! This is what we have become in our individual soul at death! This is the Mark of the Lamb, the ones in Christ - have become at death! Salvation is all forgiveness and all deliverance in Jesus Christ! (Salvation is Jesus Christ received at instant rebirth in ones human spirit through the Holy Spirit of God!) Then, Overcoming is the growth process through trials and temptations, of inheritance gained - in ones soul from Salvation in Jesus Christ! Overcoming is the outworking from Salvation within You! -
I am aware of that - I was drawing attention to the "heart condition" of one who had loads of money and material things and where his allegiance lay - to a real life situation as opposed to the parable. Notice the parable and real life story are very close to each other in Luke. They compliment and re-affirm each other. I agree
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It is a heart condition. The story of the Rich Young Ruler is fact and literal and look what happened in his case... He didn't lack money but Jesus said, "You still lack one thing" Luke 18 v 22.....(compassion for those around him in need) - The rich young ruler obeyed some commandments (picked and chose) but didn't give to the poor...because that would have impacted on his material wealth which revealed he was quite selfish at heart. What did he do after hearing the truth of his situation? He became sorrowful! Sorrowful because it would mean parting with his worldy goods....this was a self centred man... The parable in question was in Luke 16:19-31 not the one you quoted Nevertheless for my commentary on Luke 18:22 Here the rich man in Luke18:22 went away sorrowful depicting a condemned spiritual condition of not being able to do the Will of God to him. It is the Will of God to the individual that is most important - if I give lots of charity, God will not try my faith by asking me to give to the poor. NO!! He already knows I will give to the poor! Rather He will use another mammon in my life - that which I cannot surrender in His hands. In this Church age, it is the Will of God that all humankind be saved by receiving Jesus Christ as personal God. It is simply and only because of Jesus Christ that we receive eternal life, not the good works! Our mammon is only our trial and temptation zone for overcoming - the goal is the Will of God.
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A normal soul tie is sex in marriage - it binds stronger sometimes more than other soul ties like friends, parents etc.(EROS, PHILEO, STORGE and THELEMA are all soul ties) THELEMA occurs in the soul dimension with religious and secular cult-ings, soul control and the occult amongst humankind especially in organisations and meetings. However the deepest tie, you call spiritual ties is Christianity, which is 'Christ in us' in our individual human spirit through the Holy Spirit of God in this Church age. We all have the same and equal Spiritual Condition in our human spirit because of Jesus Christ received at Salvation. Note from above that soul ties are controlled by humankind in and between souls even in organisations, while spiritual ties (Christ in You) in the human spirit is controlled or rather directed by God Himself! AGAPE is God's love to us - Jesus Christ Note we - those in Christ, however have different growth progress in our individual soul.
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IT IS A PARABLE!!! Relating to where our heart lies regarding to our attitude towards God in Salvation, not necessarily about the rich being good or bad because of money, but rather about his attitude as to where his heart is, in relation to the kingdom of God. Here in the parable Luke 16:19-31, because the end is his eternal suffering - it depicts a man in this Church age who has rejected Jesus Christ as personal God having countless occasions to repent BUT...due to his pharoah-ic hardness of heart is comfortable in his mammon (anything we trust more than God in this earth life). The rich man's mammon was riches, ours could be something else maybe a tv soap opera we have watched religiously for many years For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:21) A parable is a story taken along side of the real issue at hand, but the parable is not the literal though both Lazarus and the rich man are certain people in the parable.
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Forgiveness is a heart issue while reconciliation is a practical thing. The problem is one can do the first and not the second and it still will not be sin, maybe because the reconciliation requires one of the parties to grow up spiritually out of committing the same sin - a growth process in the carnal soul or one party cannot receive forgiveness. You see why forgiveness is a heart issue, before God and man spiritually, not what man decides is due to the other physically. Consequences will come like prison, etc, but if one has a heart repentance towards God first, then Mankind secondly, even if he/she is not believed; God will know better. When any human receives Jesus Christ as personal God, he/she is forgiven for past, present and future sins. Forgiveness is for past, present and future sins only when anyone accepts Jesus Christ as personal God. (Salvation is all forgiveness and all deliverance: This is the instant Spiritual Condition of the human spirit - Christ in You - through the Holy Spirit). Yes, Indeed Jesus(Christ) died for ALL Sin (past, present and future) of All humanity: ever and shall be; but only those who believe and receive Him as Personal God are redeemed (bought back) thereby: Forgiveness is for All Sin (past, present and future) For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:(1 Peter 3:18). "In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;" (Ephesians 1:7).
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What the Earthman declares (thoughts, words and deeds) in his/her Soul ------- over a period of his/her lifetime; is vital to his/her ultimately receiving, either the [1] "Mark of the Lamb" or [2] "Mark of the Beast"; whether these thoughts, words and deeds be [1] Dependent on God or [2] Independent of God. When the Earth mans' THOUGHTS, WORDS AND DEEDS are independent of God over a period of his/her lifetime; he/she ultimately receives the "Mark of the Beast". (Rev.13:16,17) <<< THE ENTIRE BOOK OF REVELATION IS A SPIRITUAL VISION! This is not a physical mark, not a computer chip; >>>>> BUT A SPIRITUAL MARK OF OWNERSHIP! The Mark in the "forehead" >>> in the mind and motivation; and the Mark in the "right hand" >>> in the works and deeds: "Buy and Sell" >>> World system of transaction - spirit of living independent of God. This "Mark of the Beast" is developed in ones' Soul over period of years, sometimes without his/her control (good or bad) as long as ones' LIFESTYLE (thoughts, words and deeds) is independent of God. The Bible declares, "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way." (2Thessalonians 2:7) "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:36) "Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" (Mark 8:37 FURTHER APOKALUPSIS ON THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS! A spiritual vision, we should not interpret along human time-lines! In addition, not a direct indication against democracy or government but against the entire soul dimension of mankind ever has been since the fall of man in creation as being under mankind's rule by the spirit of cult-ing, the spirit of living independent of God. This spirit of cult-ing affects from smallest minute life like remote tribes to the biggest corporation or entity man has ever known. The indictment is against mankind - the condemned - rejecting God even Jesus Christ as Personal God consummating in the tower of babel-like cult-ing of soulish doing things oneself in thoughts, words and deeds even entering our most sacred and yet still soulish religiosity without Christ Himself: Church without Christ or at best without His cross(all forms of culting known to mankind: hypnosis, telepathy, mind over matter, soul control, soul ties and every witch craft in the book entering the "church") which will no more be the church as preplayed in the new testament bible but rather false prophet; name them today growing into greatness eventually becoming a terror in this life. As you will discern this prophecy is greater than any one entity. It is a great culmination of all that is secular forces against God and all that is religious forces - falsely so against God deceiving humankind that they are so. Humankind complete in his/her independence from God!(666) Even those who have been so deceived thereby would be so deceived by their hypnosis e.g. scientology oops and terror control that they would have received a pattern of thinking without the real Christ and His cross which is the crucified life against every easy way to life. These deceived ones, the bible say receive the Mark of the beast on their right hand - works and deeds and on their forehead - mind, motivation. Note this Mark is NOT a physical mark and NOT a computer chip, but a spiritual Mark of ownership on the souls of the condemned who reject Christ. Think of things like being bribed, threatened or/and seduced to do bad things you will not do because of your moral beliefs now but then will be in a more hypnotic grander scale. Also think of entities now that would change moral laws to suit their modern age lifestyle. These are all the baby stages of the anti-christ worship: Against Christ and His cross! This apocalypse of the culmination of both the body of the Antichrist (The Condemned - including its dead since the fall of mankind) on the one hand; And the culmination of the body of Christ (The Saved - including its dead since the fall of mankind) on the other hand both rising in absolute perfection one against Christ and the other for Christ, will be the final closure for the coming apostasy. "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." 1 John 2:18,22 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 7 There is hope for the - Condemned - [With God all things are possible (Mark 10: 26,27)]; to receive Jesus(Christ) even on their death bed(Gods Door Is Always Open)! However, more difficult due to a life long pharoah-ic hardening of heart against the Quality of Christ Presence: Holiness! Just as the lifelong progress - capacity to do good - of the Saved soul is his/her inheritance in the kingdom of God: Spiritual Mark or rank of ownership is the 'Mark of the lamb'. So also, the lifelong progress - capacity to do evil - of the condemned soul is his/her inheritance in the kingdom of darkness via the works of the flesh: Spiritual Mark or rank of ownership is the 'Mark of the beast'. Note the Works are NOT the Mark themselves but a physical attribute as to the growth of the Soul or one's experiences of God on the one hand and one's experiences of darkness via mind, motivation and works on the other! The only way out for the Condemned and the Lost is to be beheaded for Christ i.e. to put the old man Adam to death by receiving Jesus(Christ) as personal God - a Spiritual beheading - and living for Him (practical Holiness)! 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev.20:4 BUYING WITHOUT MONEY Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Isaiah 55:1 Others have hyped about the waters representing our eternal life, the milk representing the sincere word of God, the wine representing our complete forgiveness of our sins, giving us daily gladness to enjoy life, however nothing said about the buying itself as in worship. Spiritually we do NOT buy directly with money! We buy with our individual souls! Money in this our physical dimension is an indirect means of transaction representing a significant part of our soul energy. Therefore, when you see that kid or teenager playing with his/her video games or internet chatting for hours, they are making a transaction with their soul (mind, emotion, will). This needs to be brought home, when some say I do not have money to give or use in worship, hence I make no spiritual transaction? Yes, we all do! The end - product is about, What we are becoming in our individual Soul.
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Humankind regarding - God - has always struggled with the idea of Believing without see-ing and/or understanding. Proverbs 20:24,25 declares: Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way? It is a snare to the man who devoureth that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry. The typical Unbeliever in Jesus Christ, wants to See then understand before he/she accepts Jesus Christ as Personal God... a typical trait in scientific physical reasoning. However, in the God dimension; it is rather believe without see-ing: All throughout the New Testament bible, it is about Repent and Believe, then understanding God comes more into focus. This believing before understanding is a Spirit dimensional birth of faith in God and the Bible as God's Holy accurate Word, which is a birth from a lower physical and soul dimension into the highest God dimension. The reason now it is a snare(trap) to make enquiry after devouring the Holy - it has been revealed as Holy before it was understood. This is because it is higher and holier than our natural understanding already muddied with the Sin nature, so how can the lower and natural understand the more spiritual infinite God except through the doorway of believing without see-ing and later understanding. Therefore the Will of God for all humanity even as individuals according to the Bible will always be higher than our best natural hopes and hence for our ultimate eternal best interests. PREPLAY YOUR FUTURE IN GOD, >>> DAILY <<< READ OUT ALOUD THE BIBLE >>> PRAYERFULLY (Blessed are the poor in spirit – the spiritually helpless: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven) Therefore, we see that Christianity is Christ in You (the individual) in this Church age, and Christ in You is Jesus Christ received at Salvation in the new birth through the Holy Spirit of God, now in ones’ human spirit: This Spiritual Condition in the human spirit is the spiritual brain needed to receive revelation of the Holy Scriptures. Putting it bluntly, if the Holy Spirit (Christ in You) is not in your human spirit, you cannot receive true revelation from God of the Holy Scriptures, simply because you are still working from the Sin of Unbelief!
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All and every curse humankind can think of before the dying for the Sin nature by Jesus Christ has been paid for because of Jesus Christ. Therefore all this silly talk about blaming the Cush or Cain generational line-age for Africa's or the black man's problems is all pretty and interestingly DUMB. I shudder at the thought... if Jesus Christ did not die for the Sin nature, ...of what other reasons (superstitious) we would have for issues in society: Colour of ones' skin??? This is the more reason I personally believe that evolution is racist, NOT simply that I protect the God idea! The bible clearly states that humankind has a fallen state at natural birth - note NO colour stated - and can only be regenerated(Redemption) by accepting Jesus Christ as his or her Personal God (Christ in You): NOT a change of skin colour! This then far outweighs blaming a whole race for the Sins of their fathers. One race-s sin is different from another's but all is borne from or out of the same Adam nature. Salvation is a Personal thing NOT a national or racial thing; hence, the ills of one society are a determinant sum of the Adam-ic nature in it as against the Christ nature. Hence, Bible declares, Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. Nevertheless, the Church is an invisible moral government: Not a physical arbitrator! Church is people in whom Jesus (Christ) dwells individually!
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The soul is controlled by us or human agencies around us, while that of the spirit comes from God warning us or motivating us about something impending in our lives. The questions are, Did you force a state of soul dimensional dreaming because you did something the day before that made it possible (watching bad films, eating late, talking evil things etc) or did the dream come out of the blue without you causing it to be? Both dimensions are real but you know when you caused it, otherwise expect a bursting forth into your physical dimension if it is from God. God's Will always comes to pass!! Good advice is to read the New testament aloud prayerfully before sleep. This allows the Word of God to sink into your soul because the Word of God is the consummation of the Highest Spiritual Power. The Bible declares, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth"( 2Timothy 2:15). Worship is a LIFESTYLE of Surrender: With [in] and With [out] the body; so let the Word of God rule and dominate all aspects of your life ---- finance, journey, marriage, health, education, business, etc. Let your spiritual life go according to the Word of God; Now, Here are the following valuable points to note:
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The soul is controlled by us or human agencies around us, while that of the spirit comes from God warning us or motivating us about something impending in our lives. The questions are, Did you force a state of soul dimensional dreaming because you did something the day before that made it possible (watching bad films, eating late, talking evil things etc) or did the dream come out of the blue without you causing it to be? Both dimensions are real but you know when you caused it, otherwise expect a bursting forth into your physical dimension if it is from God. God's Will always comes to pass!! Good advice is to read the New testament aloud prayerfully before sleep. This allows the Word of God to sink into your soul because the Word of God is the consummation of the Highest Spiritual Power. The Bible declares, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth"( 2Timothy 2:15). Worship is a LIFESTYLE of Surrender: With [in] and With [out] the body; so let the Word of God rule and dominate all aspects of your life ---- finance, journey, marriage, health, education, business, etc. Let your spiritual life go according to the Word of God; Now, Here are the following valuable points to note:
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Let us look at your "compositions of the sinless creation". 1. Timelessness - Pre-fall creation was not timeless, it was done in six days according to the bible. The passage of days is the passage of time, which invalidates your claim of timelessness. 2. Incorruption - The serpent that tempted Adam and Eve did so did so by lies. The serpent blasphemes by telling Eve that God was lieing when God said that they would die if they ate of the fruit. The serpent sinned before the fall of Adam and Eve, creation was corrupted before the fall. This invalidates your claim of incorruption. 3. Eternity - There is no evidence that creation was meant to be eternal. Were that the case then eternity would have had to be removed from Adam and Eve. This however was not the case, rather Adam was removed from the garden lest he "reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." (Gen 3:22). From this we can see that before the fall, Adam (as part of creation) was not eternal before the fall. This invalidates your claim of eternity. So basically I don't see how any of your compositions are valid. How do you purport to know what these compositions were when you claim we have no ability to understand what pre-fall creation was like? Where are you obtaining these references to dimensions and their order and different natures? The direct link concerning Mankind before the fall is that something happened to humans due to the fall that ruined our thinking abilities. The three components regarding eternity is not referring to heaven - which is perfectly good on the one hand and Satan which is perfectly evil on the other - but to humans who became corrupted in our worship towards God. The point is not to refer to the garden of Eden as perfect but that man was made perfect in his/her worship towards God before the fall. It is therefore because of this fall that his/her thinking, feeling and choosing abilities have become polluted even when he/she thinks they are wise enough to discern spiritual things which ultimately dictate soulish and physical realities. Hence I will not quibble about the 6 day creation (But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day 2Peter 3:8). And on whether it were a length of time before the fall that is not similar to that after the fall; as measurements could also have become cloudy after and hence because of the fall: Adam died at the age of 930 years. Why does modern man now die so early at best 120 if any? Why has his life span been reduced so much? Could it be deterioration from his/her connection to attributes before the fall? Therefore, whatever might be pointed out as flaws of 1, Timelessness 2, Incorruption 3, Eternity before the fall; there will have been a greater perversion to humans thinking, feeling and choosing abilities after the fall. Let me remind that this whole discussion is about a choice of prophets in this modern age 1, Scientist and Evolutionist on the one hand and 2, The Bible as Spiritual Constitution for Mankind on the other. MY POINT IS ABOUT MANKIND HIMSELF BECOMING SO DELUDED IN HIS/HER THINKING SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE FALL!!!
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If this is true, why not the reverse?
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"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit" (Galatians 5:22- 25) Therefore, goodness is part of the fruit of the Holy Spirit of God. Hence a follow up with another scripture: Scripture to the Condemned! 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Matthew 19:16-22 Matthew 19:16-22 is scripture about the condemned but before this let link the two scriptures; Mankind is born in the physical and soul dimension at natural birth(Adamic nature - root of Sin) and then at rebirth he/she is reborn spiritually into the spirit dimension (Christ nature - root now in God). From this, we discover the wholesome of being 'good'. Meaning as the human 'still in Adam' has the root of Sin still in them, they therefore have no true spirit fruit of goodness in them: The good they now do, may not be God's perfect will to them because they do their own will without Jesus (Christ) at their centre. Moreover, at best, even if they were the best humans in their country, they operate from the best attribute of the Adamic nature; still without God and having the root of Sin hidden in them. Therefore accepting Jesus (Christ) as one's personal God is an essential attribute to having true goodness in one. On the other hand as we see from the man that had possessions who came asking Jesus (Christ) about eternal life: He was asked to show forth the fruits of the kingdom (The Will of God to him at that moment!) since instead of wanting to receive God, he just wanted the goods. Nevertheless, obviously he could not exhibit the fruits by selling what he had and giving to the poor; simply because he did not start with Jesus(Christ) as the centre of his life. Note that being perfect before God is only because of what Jesus (Christ) did for all humanity ever born and to be born - dying for the Sin nature that whosoever believes in Him shall be saved!
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Evolution and Science have NO jurisdiction whatsoever in Spiritual and invisible matters! They rather operate in the physical and soul-ish dimension! There are four different natures in the three living dimensions: