nobleseed

u confusing being logical and being wise in your own eyes, Jesus talks about it in the example of sowing patches on clothing and putting wine in wine skins. there is a logical way or right way to mend cloth and one that will not work at all and makes the tear worse. the same with wine skins. and is it not logical to believe in God and the risen savour. nothing else makes sense.

it has become obvious to me that the christian church as a whole has not had many good teachers, that they are like little children that have not been taught properly. people on this forum are even saying the bible does not have to make sense, that it is all taken on faith. if we believe in nonsense then there is no truth and if what we confess makes no sense then why would non believers listen to us. God is a wise God and he wrote a wise book of truth and knowledge. as it says the senseless man will never understand. so stop u silly interpretations and understand properly with a sobre mind that is fruitful

actually one of the prophesies refer to him as everlasting father in Isiah.

truth is alway logical and there is no truth without understanding, or knowledge without wisdom. i do not know what bible u are reading but things that do not make sense are never true

i never do

actually Jesus called it an eternal sin, an meaning more then one, if u study your bible carefully u will find more such as betraying a righteous man and lying to God, and what do u think Jesus meant by milestone around the neck, i am sure he could not make it more clear that those who defile children will be condemned

no he means children. that is the context of the verse.

i meant the passage where Jesus talks about he how causes a little one to sin

has anyone ever heard of an abuser becoming a christian? such a thing would not be, they are warped and they stay that way. and its also a myth that abused become abusers, there is no evidence for that whatsoever, actually u would find the opposite true that no abused would put another person through what thye have been through

children a very precious to God. to even say that a molester can be forgiven is an offence. and see mathew in regard to causing children to sin

child molestation is a bit beyond the realm of common sin.

yes it does or else i would not believe it

yes it does

my intellect comes from God, and he did not write a book the can't be understood.

did not Jesus say those who corrupt children will not suffer. does not the very nature of things tell u that those who hurt children are condemned. does not even a world that is evil even condemn such men? what i say is the truth. God will avenge the righteous and the innocent

if i do not use my logic to understand the scriptures then i have no understanding and i may as well believe in wives tales and superstitions

yes as the word, but he was not going about as an angel appearing to all the saints.

to me faith is logical and to believe in things that are nonsense is not

to hurt a child is a worse blasphemy then that of the holy spirit

its funny when it comes to God and understanding the bible how logic and sense go out the window. a lot of people draw some strange conclusions and have even stranger beliefs. they even believe stuff the bible says not to, like Jesus was an angel (Hebrews), or that Jesus was active before he was even born. God is a logical God and he has given us the ability to reason(though obviously not to all) and to me the bible has to make sense or else it has not credibility at all.

yes, among believers, but i do not think he would be at the bottom of the sea if nobody was there

any abomination and those who do them is unforgivable

child abusers cant be saved because by their actions they have rejected God and excepted satan into their hearts. no abomination will ever be forgiven

Melchizedek was the man who Abraham paid homage to at the end of his battles. it was later this Melchizedek who visited Abraham at his tent who prophesied Isaacs birth to them and condemned Sodom. at this time he was simply referred to as Lord.. it was this Melchizedek that later wrestled Jacob and went out with the Israelites during the exodus as the angel of the Lord. Hebrews goes into length at explaining that he was both priest and king and had no genealogy. he later appeared to Gideon and Samson's parents

hebrews refutes such belief as Jesus being an angel, the angel of the Lord was Melchizedek and he was later exceeded by Gabriel