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Not to mention Trump the antichrist making peace in the Middle East …the rapture…oops.

It would all go away if ICE would just stop enforcing the rule of law.

Psalm 2.

We used to sing psalm 19 a lot.

Please temper your comments a bit. I have done the homework and I gave reason for not giving specifics. The ECFs came after Nero’s time, so they were looking for another bad guy. It would help if responses are read more carefully and considered.

I won’t speak to specifics as it is not appropriate, but he dressed himself in animal skins and did unspeakable things to people. Research it if you like. The ECFs were all over the place.

Labels can cause problems with disagreements. Almost all of us are partial Preterists. This is easily provable. I tend to think in terms of ‘already and not yet’. It seems to me and many others that most prophecy has a dual fullfillment. As far as Nero goes, his own people called him the ‘beast’. The why is unmentionable. If one believes John meant he was 666, this does not mean there isn’t a beast in our future. For the record, I believe full Preterism is heretical.

Well said, brother.

Amen, brother

We have been in the last days since Pentecost. ;-) “But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: “And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy. I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath: Blood and fire and vapor of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD. And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the LORD Shall be saved.’” (Acts 2:16-21 NKJV) https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS#Acts_2:16

And yet at the end He said “Father, forgive them…”. That is the Lord I know.

I discuss much of this in ‘Salvation is Relocation’ Its fundamental stuff that prevents much error if understood. It is not taught and emphasized enough.

Toni and I visited the Cherokee Museum in Tahlaqua, OK where the story of the Trail of Tears is told and exposed.

“For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5 NKJV) https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS#Eccl._9:5

I tend to agree with this sort of viewpoint. I think that all else is symbolic. I have long thought that Paul’s experience was literally impossible to convey.

Lord willing, I will add some thoughts at another time. This has been a good conversation.

Yes…it basically means in place of another, but has taken on various applications.

I am concerned with the scripural definition where it’s available. Not rocket science.

That’s what I said..sort of. However I was looking to be accurate and making a distinction.

Antichrist if you look it up in koine Greek means against or opposed to. Vicar has a different meaning.

Actually it means in place of or a substitute for.

Its interesting that antichrist is either against Christ or in place of…

At some point, more draconian measures will have to take place--or....

There are sites up this way as well.

I have put together all the scriptures in the NT that contain the two words body and spirit--as you can see the term 'spirit body' is nowhere mentioned. A spirit and a body are very distinct things. This is a very common misunderstanding. Is Christ's body a 'spiritual body' that question becomes difficult. He has a body as evidenced by many things that happened after His resurrection and interaction with many people. God is a Spirit--which relates as I see things to a Nature of Life--but I don't feel comfortable trying to understand that. What we are addressing is the new bodies we will have after the change. We will not be 'disembodied spirits'. This corruption will become incorruptible. Only substance can be corrupted in the context of what Paul wrote. Death will be swallowed up and eliminated from any possibility for us after Christ Returns. ----1John 3:2 (NAS20S) Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.---- Acts 19:12 (NAS20S) so that handkerchiefs or aprons were even carried from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out. Rom. 8:10 (NAS20S) If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. Rom. 8:13 (NAS20S) for if you are living in accord with the flesh, you are going to die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Rom. 8:23 (NAS20S) And not only that, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons and daughters, the redemption of our body. 1Cor. 5:3 (NAS20S) For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present. 1Cor. 5:5 (NAS20S) I have decided to turn such a person over to Satan for the destruction of his body, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. 1Cor. 6:19 (NAS20S) Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 1Cor. 7:34 (NAS20S) and his interests are divided. The woman who is unmarried, and the virgin, is concerned about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and spirit; but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how she may please her husband. 1Cor. 12:13 (NAS20S) For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. Eph. 4:4 (NAS20S) There is one body and one Spirit, just as you also were called in one hope of your calling; Col. 2:5 (NAS20S) For even though I am absent in body, I am nevertheless with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your orderly manner and the stability of your faith in Christ. 1Th. 5:23 (NAS20S) Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. James 2:26 (NAS20S) For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.