AllforJesustheLord

Well I believe originally people Adam, and Eve did not have sin, and through Christ we can go into that position again, but if people do not believe in the good news, then they stay in the sin which was established by Adam, and Eve, with the evil help of the adversary. Everything is possible if we believe in The Father, Son, and The Holy Spirit.

Well I think the question is in the answer, and the opposite. God has choosen for somepeople to be rich, and some to be poor, and some to be inbetween those areas for different reasons. God punishes people to help them to be saved, and yet chastens people also because they are so close to Him, because that will perfect them in Christ, also sometimes He does this to establish His righteous judgement when people do not serve Him. Sometimes He does this chastizement, because people are evil, meaning give them alot of things, because they are destroying there souls, so He is making it so it is more difficult for them to repent, people who are evil will be judged according to there works, also sometimes God makes people rich to establish His righteous causes. Sometime He makes them poor, because they are evil, or because this will help them to serve Him better, and they will increase in faith, and have more of God's glory. Things happen because people are sinning, or righteous, or for God's glory, so then we many times choose to think in a way which is all to often against God's will. We judge many things we think are right judgements, but we should not compare ourselves with other people rather let us be content with what we have, and repent of our sins, and serve God, and His Christ, and then we will be blessed regardless of if we have money, and things, or not. We can continue to live, and trust God, and if we want to, we can educate ourselves, with God's support to make it so we do not lack any material things. We should not forget to help the poor, and those who need different things, this is a part of loving.

I suggest you fast, and pray, and if you can not choose to do what is right, then I suggest you try to find some other thing, to comfort you which is not so bad as that. Maybe you could drink alittle alcohol every once in a while to help you, but if that would lead you to do other things which are hurtful to you, then please do not do that. Maybe you could find a movie which is not so bad, and watch that instead, I mean there may be violence, and maybe some sexual things, but not people getting naked, and preferably not people having sexual relations, submit to God, and humble yourself, and you will not even need these things, because if you believe in Christ then you can do all good things through Him, you are not alone, so have faith, and go to the next level of faith by talking to God through Jesus Christ, come boldly unto the throne of grace, for grace, and mercy in time of need. Through His blood we are saved, and through His Spirit we are saved.

Well if you are wasting time, and not doing what God wants you to do, as a person, and a believer, and an individual then yes, that means you are not serving God, but if you are doing what you feel is right, and is in fellowship with God, then you are doing what you are supposed to do.

I have just received another understanding of fullfilling the Sabbath, when Christ spoke, and said, He is Lord of the Sabbath, He was saying the Sabbath does not dictate to me what to do, but I as God I dictate to The Sabbath what is righteous. Thus whatever He chooses to do, is God's Work, even on the natural 7th Day Sabbath. Also He was showing the law is not as important as me who am The Spirit, and The Spirit makes, and changes, whatever law He wants to, He brings the fullness of all teachings. Christ is The Holy Spirit, and The Holy Spirit, is The Spirit of The Father, and each are The Father. The Father said He would come to save us His people, and He does, and has, and will do that. In Yesuos Christos name amayn.

QUOTE (Draigon @ Aug 9 2004, 02:10 PM) QUOTE (dwinkjr @ Aug 9 2004, 09:29 AM) Draigon, I am curious as to how you came to a point that you no longer believed In God, and that Christ was his son? Would you mind sharing that with us or with me in IM? God Bless, Dave I just stopped believing, because I didn't want to anymore, I was hurt to bad... If you give up you give up on yourself, and you are hurting yourself. Give up on satan, he has already forsaken you, and you sometimes think he is there to help you, but you know he is there to destroy you, and hurt you. I will say this to you God loves you, and He wants you back, do not forsake the One who constantly loves you. How can you have a good life if you forsake Love. Are you not seeking love meaning a man who will love you. I believe you are, and will, but you will not find love, until you turn back to Love Himself. You do not have to go back to the church you went to. If you want a good church I can help you with that, just let me know what city, and/or state you live in, and I will tell you what church to go to. Life is many times disappointing, but let us learn to be stronger then the disappointments, fear not man which can destroy the body, but rather fear God who can both destroy the body, and the soul, in this life, and when the passing on to heaven, or hell occurs. When someone suffers, and continues to serve God, and His Christ then God will send His Holy Spirit to that person to give them liberty, freedom, consolation, hope, strength, and this strength will serve everyone better including yourself, then forsaking yourself, and God. If you hear me, believe, and know God wants you to be healed. Humble yourself, and He will heal your heart, your spirit, your mind, believe that I can help you, and God will help you. Believe what I say, and have faith, I say things in the Anointed One, God Himself through, and in YeHUShua Meshiach(Jesus Christ), I break the yoke of bondage on this young women, I loose faith into her now, and love which bears all burdens, hope which she lost in the past, powers of satan I notify you, you can not have her, through, and by the sword of Yehushua Meshiach, The Lord, and God, I cut the ties of hate, and fear, God calls to you and says come home, come home in your life, I will take the strife, give love, and you shall get the love, which does beget you into a new being of life, and grace, and truth, partaking of my life, your free, free to roam, in the meadows to the home, of the great One who loves your heart who see you if you roam into heaven in heavenly apparel, to live, and breath free. In Jesus Christ's Name the name which has come to save, to save the children the children who are couragous, and not afraid to fight in the spirit, by The Spirit for all to see. In Jesus Christ's name I pray for you. Believe what I say, and act, and you shall find new life

If we repent, and have faith toward God, and His Christ we will be forgiven, for faith is automatically repentance, and continues to have faith, and more repentance. If repentance is not going to be done, faith is not manifested.

Some day, maybe I will again, but for right now, I do not believe God desires for me to do this. What God has made clean do not call unclean this is the revelation Peter got. Notice please, in the New Testament, those who did the Law of Moses, they were instructed in Christ's ways, and still did different areas of the law of Moses, and those who did not even Jew, and Greeks, were not instructed to do the Laws of Moses, why because Jesus Christ, YeHuSHua MeSHiaCH is the completion of the Law of Moses, and does, and has completed all so all could, and would be saved, by believing in Him, and following Him, and He did go past the Laws of Moses in many instances in the New Testament, and established a better way. When He comes back many Older Testament things will be commanded again, but until that time, Christ shows us the way of revelation, of much more, mercy, then judgement. More judgement also will be shown when Christ comes back again also. I have personally did the different feasts of Israel, Passover, Pesach, and Tabernacles, Succot, I have participated somewhat in probably more then one new moon, and literal shabbot, sabbath days. I believe I have also tried to do, Pentecost. I enjoy them, but the New Testament shows they are not necessary for perfect salvation. I believe what The Scriptures say do you?. Now this is what Paul said unto Peter in Galatians, many Jews, choose to live like the nations, in sin, by judging wrongly against what God says in the New Covenant. So we who are of faith are the seed of Abraham, and not those who try to be so through the flesh, or sin.

Yes, and we know God can Heal them if He will. You see if someone is walking like Jesus I think more people would be healed, but many do not fulfill there destiny. I think because many do not choose to suffer for Christ. If we suffer for Christ we shall be perfected like He was through suffering.

Another thing I find is that people seem to find an excuse to have a physical infirmity, emotional one, and/or mental one. They use the scriptures so they can be justified when this happens to them quite alot, and the reason they have problems is because they are not totally serving God. In other words alot of times people are not called to have those things, but they use the scriptures which talk about some being called to have those things, so they could glorify God, but they themselves are not called to have those things. They sometimes choose to have those things, because they are deceived, by their own heart, and do not choose to claim the promise of God keeping us healthy physically, emotionally, and mentally. We do know God may have us have problems sometimes in those areas, but many times many people, do not seek God to get out of them, and thus think they are called to have them. This is generalizing, but is nonetheless true. Now we can understand some are called to suffer physically for the glory of God, like being continually in a wheelchair, so they can glorify God, and how wonderful He is, they can be a living witness in whatever way God calls them to be a living witness. Some people may be choosen by God to have mental problems, and/or emotional with the purpose of glorifying God, but many choose not to follow God, and thus stay in those positions which they are not to be in. Some are called to do those things I believe, but others choose to say they are called in those positions, just because they are deceived, and/or do not choose to love, and do the good news, the truth.

One thing I notice is in order for me to be able to serve God completely in every way, I really should have the ability to walk around trusting God, and be healthy enough to do that, and be healthy enough emotionally, and mentally to serve and Love God. So if something happens to someone emotionally, and/or mentally, and/or physically, they should atleast emotionally, and mentally come out of that, and have a sound mind, meaning God will save them sometime for the purpose of establishing His Work, now if a person is called to do His work with an infirmity physically this is alright, but I want to obey God in the calling which I believe He has called me in, and that means I can be healthy physically, to fulfill His purposes. I think many times people do not receive these parts of the good news, because they are not walking in faith working by love.

I think this is a good question. Well beware of false teachers, and prophets, because they are many, and all over. If someone is truly an apostle, and/or a prophet, listen to when God is speaking through them, and learn from there actions also, because when God has His hand upon them, everything they do is done in utterance, by God's Spirit, meaning both there words, and actions. There is a purpose given which is done, and known, and yet may be many purposes all in one action, and/or word. So if someone is a prophet, whether they be an apostle, who does things in the prophetic anointing fully, or a prophet, listen to them, and obey instructions. Spiritually prospering is more important, and includes all different types of blessings from God. I have understood a great truth, when God gives power to do His will, we many times think we do this, but in reality this has been in God's plan, whatever is happening, and we in that case are in the Holy Spirit, and are The Holy Spirit in oneness, yet we know we in separation are not the Holy Spirit, but in the one scripture God says we are. I can let you know this scripture if you would like this is an amazing scripture.

I do not chose to go indept about this issue, because if I do that, I may go away from God's Word. So I simply believe what Jesus Said, This is my body, and this is my blood, when you do this do this in remembrance of me. He did not say this symbolizes my body, and this symbolizes my blood. He said this is my body, and this is my blood.

Well trinity, May God continue to move within you, and all of us to do His will. I care for you, and desire only good things. I hope I have not hurt you in any way, God bless.

That was funny! Thanks for the laugh. What I am saying is faith will lead people to serve God through Christ, in what He taught. This goes for those who do the Laws of Moses, and for those who do not do the Laws of Moses, and we can see if we go according to Christ we will not be lost. Christ did not do the Laws of Moses in the ways of the Laws of Moses, He did them in a higher way, which makes it so both those who do the Laws of Moses, and those who do not, both believing in Christ, they can eat, and fellowship together, and show Jesus Christ's love, and not argue, because they agree with each other in there doctrine. I Love all.

Depression is a terrible thing, and we as believers, and Christians if we come to that position, should know God does not want us to be there, His intentions are we are to have righteousness, peace, joy in the Holy Spirit, and power, love, and a sound mind. If we come to that position of having great sadness let us turn to God for Help He does not want us to stay in depression, because that will lead to do things, which go against God if we turn toward Him, He will lift us up in due time, and we will not suffer emotionally, and mentally. God may allow us to have that for alittle while so we could turn toward Him, and learn to be obedient to Him, then He will take us out of the terrible spot of emotional, and mental, and physical infirmity. God will help us to be healthy if we serve Him, this is for His Glory, that is what Jesus Said, this is for those who love, Him, He will rescue them so everyone may be blessed in knowing He is God, and to have fellowship with The Father through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Well the written Word comes from The Word, being God, even out of Him, and so therefore the things which are written are for our learning to bring us to Christ, we need to come to Him. You see the law of Moses does not stop the promise given to Abraham, the promise is done by faith, and not by the Law of Moses, the promise is for those who do the Law of Moses, and for those who do not, Abraham was justified, without circumcision, and thus that is a type, of not doing the Laws of Moses, and then after that faith was come, He was told to be circumcised, and thus that spiritually speaks of doing the Law of Moses, so a person is not justified, by not doing the Laws of Moses, or doing the Laws of Moses, a person is justified, by the faith of Abraham, and in the New Testament that comes by the promise, which does not disanull the teachings of Messiah, The promise is for Him, and His teachings, The apostle Paul got into His teaching very indeptly, and all the other apostle, you see they all ended up preachings, and teaching the same things. So then we who are of faith are the children of Abraham, as Galatians, and Ephesians says.

Yes, this can be and is. In Galatians I see a awesome scripture. Talking about if a child is a child, the child is as a slave even though he is above the slave, yet in his own time, the manifestation of the sons of God shall be known, when God see fit, who sets us apart from the whom, as the apostle Paul experienced, this also will happen for those who will become the sons of God in full measure. To as many as received Him to them He gave power to become the sons of God. I have discovered this means when we receive Him we are spiritually metaphorically conceived in the womb, and when we do what we are commanded, God will empower us to be born again again, meaning, we come out of the womb, and come into the world.

Well I think faith is that which we do not see, it is a belief which makes things happen, but truthfully, faith, is something we believe in, and it is a belief, without seeing something, faith will manifest itself, by different manifestations. I look at the scripture which says, if you see something, how can you have faith for that, but if you have faith for what you do not see, you have faith, because faith is not needed when a person sees something, faith is something, which we choose to believe, because we see with spiritual eyes, and hear with spiritual ears, and understand with spiritual hearts. The spiritually minded can please God, but the carnal minded can not please God. Thus faith is a belief in what we know, and also faith will bring about what we know, and yet the manifestation when it happens, faith is shown, but faith continues to move, and do things, without the natural eye seeing, and hearing, and understanding, faith will bring manifestations, which is the fruit of the faith, and thus all faith is of God, and that is how we are saved. We are not saved, by any works we do, but faith will have fruit, and that fruit we view as works, but in reality, no manifestation will happen except for what The Holy Spirit makes happen, thus God's will will happen in the earth.

What I am really interested in is the 144,000, if I am still alive at that time what they will do, and look like. If I could see them doing various different things, I would do what they instruct no matter what that is, because I see they will be blessed of God.

I desire people would know, I love the Old Testament ways, but they are not as high as the ways of The anointed One, His Ways are Higher. One major reason this is true is because when He came first, they refused Him, and His way to do the Old Covenant, and the Jews Killed Him, and the Romans also, but in killing Him, He made the necesity of loving Him, and believing in Him, far more important then the Older Testament sacrifices, feast days, holy days, and eating, and drinking in certain ways, he shows a way which is new, to save all the elect, and to bring in the full teaching of who He is, so we would embrace Him, and do His will. Now one reason why the Old Testment laws do not continue, is because He is them, and told us to do something else, because of the disobedience of the Jews, and because He is choosing to have mercy upon everyone now, and not just Israel in the natural. In the song of Moses, we can see God promised when Israel in the natural had disobedience God would punish them, He has done this, and continues to do this, yet the purpose is to set them free from all sin, but many do not see that. Those who do not fully receive the sacrifice of Christ, and think they must still be involved in the Older Testament teachings, Christ is the Older Testament teachings, and yet is Higher then them. Thus God has chosen to change teachings, to establish His will in the way He choose through Christ, not through the Law of Moses.

I do not have scriptures right infront of me so I will do the best I can with out the scriptures right in front of me. Yes, I believe a more correct interpretation of the Hebrew Word is time, and not feast is that correct, but the point is, this is a time that is very special. Yes, the feast of passover is to be kept, with sincerity, and pure love, that is how we keep the feast we do that all the time, this is the requirement, all the time, that is how we keep the spiritual feast which has been made over the natural feast. God had His purpose, or purposes for Paul to keep the feast of Tabernacles, we do not know for sure all of the different reasons this was done on this time, yet Paul was needing to go there, and maybe that is where His faith was at that time, more, and more, He went away from those natural laws of each spiritual precept, and teaching. Yet it was not wrong for Him to do what He did, He was following God's Spirit. I did mention if we who believe in Jesus Christ are lead to do those things to save Israel in the natural we can, and should, so they would be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. I do not turn away from the Jewish things, I simply know Jesus Christ is all of God's Word, and thus He is over all His Word, and before all His Word, and He has chosen in His Word to establish new things, when He comes back He will establish more of the Old Testament, but if we chose to believe in all the New Testament we should realize we are not under any law of the Old Testament, we are under Christ of The New Testament.

Preach it, I know you have good intentions, but you also do not have all your scriptures correctly interpreted, and also you have a spirit of control, manipulation, confusion, and pride, please do what this scripture says, be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to wrath, this will help you to be meek, and to inherit the earth.

People need to have love, and many times they are not willing to turn to God, and thus the people groups who favor them, they turn to them.

My friends are becoming more, and more limited, the only true friend I have is Jesus Christ.