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Just wondering eric, but you noted that you were "far from being happy." and yet you've been retired for quite some time now. Could you shed more light on the "discontentment?" Or are you saying that you are unhappy with people you know that and the world today and the direction that they are heading....etc...etc...?? The reason I ask is because in about 7 years I will be looking at retirement, in a sense and I'm surprised to hear someone already retired might be "unhappy" about retirement. I'm guessing that the Unhappy comment might be from another source? No? I'm going to hit the sack now,but I will get back to you. It's no big deal, really. The past is dead and gone, but I have a marvellous future ahead of me. c/ya for now. Whatever it is brother, my prayers are with ya!

Topic/ Can we be punished for the sins of our parents? Guess I should have added (punished by repeating their sin or sins similar to them; as in sexual sins) I didn't have enough room in the "topic space provided" but I did add in my comments upon first writing my question/comments. Did you get a chance to read it eric? I have read most of your posts as has everyone else.Watch my fingers. After you have been saved, God does not punish you for any of your sins or your ancestor's sins. if you are genuine in your committment to Him, and you sin you will only punish yourself for your transgression by your conscience, if you don't repent as soon as possible.....like straight away. if you deliberatley step outside God's circle of love and protection, you are in enemy territory and you deserve what you get, but it wont be from God. If you are stupid enough to grapple with the devil and get injured, it's your own fault for being disobedient..............and I've got emotional scars to prove it. I probably should have asked opinions on, "Can I inherit the sins of my father? The term "punish" comes with the territory since I believe I "HAD" inherited sins from my fore-fathers; as they can be substantiated and I believe it to be a punishment through hereditary, and had to be stopped by me ......finally!

You have a right to be concerned and Blien is correct as well. We have to wonder what God thinks of the thousands of denominations that "think they have it right!" The one thing I can tell you BOT is that you have a very sensitive spirit, and God has you that way to be receptive to these kinds of matters. I too watch some of the same Preachers that you do, with the expeption of Benny Hinn. Sorry, but I just don't get good discernment on him. Teachers like Joel and Joyce are coming under tremendous criticism as well. Probably because they are taking so many followers from preachers that are not keeping their congregations fulfilled in God's Word. Could be many other reasons as well. But I will tell you , the moment you hear something that does not coincide with the Word Of God, break away immediately. Don't let another day rise to be morning. Just like when you fell temptation about to come upon you and you know you can stop it in its tracks....Stop it immediately....For satan knows your weakensses as he does mine. And he knows if we spend all our time gaining knowledge and wisdom from God's leaders satan will try to find leaders who will make us faulter/fall. The evidence of a Preacher or Leader should always be clear and visable, as in the helping of the poor or providing shelters for the poor or even in other countries. our Brothers and sisters are not just bound to our neighborhoods or cities. There are just as many needy over the seas as in your own back yard. "One Unit!" One body! We can be that here on Worthy or through Private Messenger or however we choose to communicate to get God's Word out to those that are less fortunate or more in trouble. Our safety is in God. If you feel safe within your church or the scope of the knowledge you receive from the Televangelists, that's because God is protecting you. You will know when He is warning you. I will keep you in my prayers for a time. Be in God Cajunboy

with out reading all the other replies, the simplest reply would be the example on the cross..... the thief, dying right long side Christ.... being told that he will be with Christ in paradise. mike The problem with the Thief example is that we do not know how he lived his life prior to his hanging. He may have been caught steeling trying to get food for his starving children for all we know. He obviously recognised Jesus for who he was. Could some one who rebelled against God their entire life suddenly come to full realization. Who knows? It is for God to judge not us. God Bless, K.D. In agreement KD, Only God knows the Intentions within the heart of the supposedly "repenter." And God cannot be fooled by words! Rebellion is also a form of "blasphemy!" Because the person is still denying God and HIS commands. Also, a person is taking a huge risk with his life/death as no one knows the hour of their death. Not even a prisoner. If God was not allowed to intervene with HIS spirit in the person's life, God says "how can he be forgiven?" Blessings cajunboy

Only just after our conversion? Yeepers - I've still got areas in my life I need to figure out how to surrender (self-image issues, defenses, discerning gossip for what it is and keeping my mouth shut, fear of man, etc.). Neb , when I came to the Lord I was retired and have been for twenty four years. I have had the time to get involved in all kinds of church out reaches. You are in the work force and are mixing with all types of secular gossip and bad language etc. I never leave the house except to drive my wife half a mile down the road to the shopping centre.And am I happy?.....no and far from it. In fact life's been a bummer for both of us,but we stand on our faith and trust and love of Christ Jesus and hold fast to such scripture as Rom 8"28 and Phil4:13. We believe in divine providence and what ever happens is pre-orbained by The Father. You hang in there my sister. You are a winner and never ever fear man. Just wondering eric, but you noted that you were "far from being happy." and yet you've been retired for quite some time now. Could you shed more light on the "discontentment?" Or are you saying that you are unhappy with people you know that and the world today and the direction that they are heading....etc...etc...?? The reason I ask is because in about 7 years I will be looking at retirement, in a sense and I'm surprised to hear someone already retired might be "unhappy" about retirement. I'm guessing that the Unhappy comment might be from another source? No?

Perhaps you could better explain what the above poster intentions were aimed at? Or give more detail of your alleged "fallacy." I'll be more than happy to (or at least, to clarify just a little bit). It seems in the way you've set up the OP that you're looking for a literal translation of Scripture only, i.e. the old "Book, Chapter, Verse" routine. While this can be the case in many answers and in many situations, just because someone does not specifically quote a Scripture passage in answer to a question does not invalidate that answer (here I am referring to you telling another Poster something to the effect of, "I'm not sure what book and chapter you pulled that from, but I am more interested in Scripture, not in man's social opinions" [forgive me if that is not word-for-word, but you no doubt get my reference] ). That is what I meant by my earlier post...just the fact that not all Scripture is to be interpreted literally, and to do so is a mistake, and should be corrected. It would seem to me that "man's opinion" if that man is a true Believer, would be better known as God's opinion speaking through man!... Blessings, and I hope this helps, A.P. Thanks AP, for trying to clarify your response. But the thing I was addressing was when Sierra was addressing "Murderers and stating that murders could be mistakes " This was her comment: ("Even murder is a mistake if the person looks back on it and realizes what they've done and asks for forgiveness. " Not sure what Book of the Bible you pulled that one out of, but that's not what God acknoledges as a "mistake." And while you may be forgiven by God for committing murder, YOU MAY NOT BE FORGIVEN, if your hearts not right, and that's something only God can sees and knows; a person's intentions in their heart. AP, I hope you can see why I was concerned. I don't think too very many "murderers" were "mistakes." And that's what I was telling Sierra when I asked her to state the scripture/verse that supports her statement. Murder or even anger on another person can only be forgiven by God if the person committing the act has repented for it and has the right intentions in their heart. If you wish and are not familiar with the scripture, I'd be happy to searh it and pin it up on Worthy. Blessings Cajunboy

American Standard \ Oh, and don't forget about the "Burning Bush!" I'd be curious to know how Mr Barker feels about a "Christian's perceiving that God speaks through us in our spirits and through HIS? Wouldn't that be a form of an inanimant object, since the "spirit" are not apparent or visible to human eyes?

If I might interject : The thing I noticed is Dan notation of the definition of "fable" as pertaining to animals speaking and conversing with humans, and you also noted that he turned against the entire Bible because of his disbelief in this? Then how does he explain in his defense the remainder of the entire biblical perspective as it related to only humans? How would these explanations and interactions be considered "fables" if all the rest is only relating to human intention and intervention? His arguement would be weak just in this defense alone.

Please believe me Scarlet, It doesn't include vanity at all. I've been following and doing God's work for nearly 40 years now, in much of the same fashion and HIS rewards on earth alone have been great. I have a beautiful family God has graced me with and I know HE can take anyone of us to join HIM at any given time. While that would be my greatest test in life, at least I would have the ease of knowing that they too will join God and one day we can all be together FOREVER! Amen You stated,"I "usually" pray or just praise God all the way to work in the morning, but it doesn't take long for me to let the people/situation at work make me loose the peace I've gained on the ride in. My fault, oh yeah, no doubt about it, how many times do we see even here, people questioning WHY something is happening to them, when they go to church, pray read their Bibles.) and I used to think the same for so long but I finally gave in to another ressoning. That God was trying to get MY attention as well. HE wants me to have more patience with these type of people like you are mentioning in the captions. These are the ones that HE wants me to reach for HIM. I can see that many of these people have some very special traits and qualities that God has set aside for some later time in their lives and I can be of great service to HIM if I pay closer attention to their needs rather than my own. Almost , is not good enough for God.....HE wants ALL of us.

damo1 thanks eric i have come across y6ur posts and they have spoken to me as you seem to be a wise man like the person i know in my church who is an old aborigonal elder and always when i come across your posts they bless me it just hurts me when i see brothers and sisters doing this and i am reminded of my friends i have gotten to know in prison who have not got this freedom we have eric these guys want to worship with us and they in tears wish they did not do what they did but they have to know face reality and learn to be christ like in prison which is almost hard for these brothers i know when i walk in i can walk free and come home but these brothers can not and they even get given a hard time when they worship god on a sunday in a smal room with gaurds out side and the message being preached by the chaplin or one of the inmates that is why i sort of said what i said in my post i left hear i know you wil be with jesus hay when you are in heaven say high to king david for me and paul as these men spoke into my life while i was serving time my self and i know when i get to heaven i will be looking for king david and the apostle paul and i am going to say thank you for the letters you left for men like my self to read may the lord bless you and your family eric take care Hey, thanks damo........ you always give great testamonies...As difficult of a life that I thought I had, it doesn't come close to your suffering in your life. We are so fortunate in this country to have the freedom we have and yet so many even abuse those freedoms. But God will give much dispensation in the end for those who rejected HIM, and many will be rewarded for their "Believing in HIM!" God bless You Cajun

Thanks so much for your support and confidence eric. I know I sometimes have trouble "putting it all together," but I tried to explain it the way God had intended it for me and HIS purpose and for me, it seldom makes alot of sense the first time around. I believe that sometimes I might not be waiting long enough to allow God to complete HIS thoughts in me before I go public with these intentions. Patience! Thanks again eric in God Cajun

My first thought was to quote Exodus 16:23 (cessation of activity, a holy day to honor God, a day of rest for the Pharisees. You are correct that Jesus , again explained in greated detail that the Sabboth was a day of rest for them. But Jesus does not go into great detail that WE should rest on the Sabboth, as HE explains that the Sabboth was designed for man not man for the Sabboth. As I understand Jesus' explanation, "If you have to do something that is more necessary as in a harvest is due or to assist in healing or aiding the sick, or the like Jesus gives us permission. But don't take away the premise that we don't have to "Revere" God at some time in the week. That should be up to the individual and his own personal beliefs on the matter. And Jesus reminds us that "we are to gather two or more together in HIS name" we are reverencing God, be it fellowship, or even what we are doing here on this forum! Blessings Cajunboy

Personally, I find it educational. I live in an area where people are into Wicca or Neo-Paganism or other variations of the like. Druidism - or a modern variation of the religion - is one of these. So it does me good to understand the kinds of things I am dealing with in the people around me. hello there...I am back...actually it is a new keyboard that has been intoduced, my old one decided to retire. since I am not computer savvy it took be a while to get here. Erich... I just mentioned this information due to other posts I was reading where info was... hmmm not quite correct and could have been misconstrued... thats all. So glad to see you return sweet lady! Missed you a bunch. I agree Pat, I don't have to celebrate or encourage the theme of the Druids, or even Halloween but it's good to understand what we're up against in the case we run across a "Druid" for instance and we are in a position to defend our Lord. I wished you would have told me you were in need of a "keyboard." I could have mailed you a second one that I don't use. blessings Cajunboy

Perhaps you could better explain what the above poster intentions were aimed at? Or give more detail of your alleged "fallacy."

(Sinning just means you made a mistake? )hum...Interesting response. I wonder if the Jews who crucified Christ thought that "they just made a mistake?" (You will sin everyday? )hum....So try not to sin everyday. Sure, if you've made an error in judgement.....That's understandable. But if you can stop a direct, purposeful sin from happening.....why not think through it with God's help? What ever God puts in your heart that you have wronged someone or even wronged God......IS SIN! (You can try sining less, but you'll never stop sinning altogether) hum? Which would you choose if you had a choice, sinning less or sinnning all throughout the day?....That's what I thought! Try it......It just might work for you....It does for me! First of all, you should try taking things less personally. You asked for peoples opinions, and that's what I gave you. Since you didn't like my opinion you chose to tear it apart. It's funny because you clearly CHOSE to react this way, when in fact, it wasn't the most Christian way to act now was it? It kind of goes against what you're saying in this thread doesn't it? i stand by my post. Have you ever done something really stupid, by choice, and then thought about it after and said "WOW, that was a really huge mistake on my part". Well, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You chose to sin, but it was still a mistake. Even murder is a mistake if the person looks back on it and realizes what they've done and asks for forgiveness. Every single thing we've done wrong prior to becoming a christian was (yes you guessed it) a MISTAKE, or a SIN. Ma'am, nothing personal taken. However, I was searching more for Biblical structure more than man social opinions. Please refer to "Topic!" You said, "Even murder is a mistake if the person looks back on it and realizes what they've done and asks for forgiveness. " Not sure what Book of the Bible you pulled that one out of, but that's not what God acknoledges as a "mistake." And while you may be forgiven by God for committing murder, YOU MAY NOT BE FORGIVEN, if your hearts not right, and that's something only God can see! Thanks anyway? My post does have biblical structure. I'm not going to reply anymore to your topic because its quite obvious that you only want responses which fit what YOU think is right. Got it! Allow me to explain. When I read the first part of your response, all I read coming from your words were, "our sins are only mistakes." This I totally disagree with. They are SINS ! A mistake insinuates that our intentions were not the same as the outcome. A sin doesn't always support that. Many sins are intentional. Most mistakes are not. I hope this explains where my feelings are in this. It has nothing to do with "who's right and who's wrong." I could care less about being wrong if giving testamony and pouring my heart out to anyone needs to hear this very thought, in order to bring them closer to God.

Respectfully Fraught, I only referring to someone who feels the need to have a "closer walk" with God. This topic was not designed to focus on those who still have fear in their lives. I am still young in God's eyes even though I'm in my mid-fifties, and fear of man has long sense left my soul. Now, I am concentrating on a "Closer Walk" with HIM. And the only way I know who to do this is through methods like this. God has directed another to show me this way and I find it did wonders to open new doors and ways to get even closer than I ever dreamed to God. I just thought someone else out there might be looking for other ways and avenues/paths to draw even nearer to HIM. Remember, if you don't knock HE can't answer! what does fear have to do with anything i said? would not praying this psalm help someone to have a closer walk with God? i hope it does anyway Sir, how long did you have fear of God's wrath before you came to repentance? Much of the secular world remains in sin our of fear of God's wrath because they refuse to face HIM, because of their misunderstanding HIM. Many of the souls I speak with on the road explain to me that they don't feel their strong enough to "fight the good fight" and it's easier to just remain in sin rather than risk punishment from God. They don't even understand that God does not punish here on earth, or that is my belief and understanding when I read of HIS Word.

(Sinning just means you made a mistake? )hum...Interesting response. I wonder if the Jews who crucified Christ thought that "they just made a mistake?" (You will sin everyday? )hum....So try not to sin everyday. Sure, if you've made an error in judgement.....That's understandable. But if you can stop a direct, purposeful sin from happening.....why not think through it with God's help? What ever God puts in your heart that you have wronged someone or even wronged God......IS SIN! (You can try sining less, but you'll never stop sinning altogether) hum? Which would you choose if you had a choice, sinning less or sinnning all throughout the day?....That's what I thought! Try it......It just might work for you....It does for me! First of all, you should try taking things less personally. You asked for peoples opinions, and that's what I gave you. Since you didn't like my opinion you chose to tear it apart. It's funny because you clearly CHOSE to react this way, when in fact, it wasn't the most Christian way to act now was it? It kind of goes against what you're saying in this thread doesn't it? i stand by my post. Have you ever done something really stupid, by choice, and then thought about it after and said "WOW, that was a really huge mistake on my part". Well, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You chose to sin, but it was still a mistake. Even murder is a mistake if the person looks back on it and realizes what they've done and asks for forgiveness. Every single thing we've done wrong prior to becoming a christian was (yes you guessed it) a MISTAKE, or a SIN. Ma'am, nothing personal taken. However, I was searching more for Biblical structure more than man social opinions. Please refer to "Topic!" You said, "Even murder is a mistake if the person looks back on it and realizes what they've done and asks for forgiveness. " Not sure what Book of the Bible you pulled that one out of, but that's not what God acknoledges as a "mistake." And while you may be forgiven by God for committing murder, YOU MAY NOT BE FORGIVEN, if your hearts not right, and that's something only God can see! Thanks anyway? My post does have biblical structure. I'm not going to reply anymore to your topic because its quite obvious that you only want responses which fit what YOU think is right. That might be a good idea. If you don't understand why I post these type of topics to begin with, like a few others here, then you'll never understand me. Please allow me to try one more time to explain my position here? If you disagree, then I will immediately remove myself from the forum. Ma'am, I a bit older than most of the youth here and God has seen me though some pretty unpredictable and what would seem like impossible comebacks even to the average Christian and in particular impossible paths in life to the secular person. This is not about US! All that we should be doing here, those of us that are positive in our salvation with God, is helping others. The ONLY reason I post these type of posts if first , I experienced them personally as many of you well-versed Christians have done as well. My main focus is always that someone out there viewing our posts, might be too shy to respond or think themself unworthy before God and when they might see something that they themselves can relate to , my deepest heartfelt hopes and prayers is that this will give them courage and strength to GO TO GOD on their knees and humble themselves as many of us have, and give there repentance request knowing that if God has seen us through these what seem impossible matters, he can do the very same for all of them. If this is not what were here for and to give support to fellow brothers and sisters here on the board to give testamonies and experiences where God got us through life and to this point, then I really have no place here and I will leave you all here to do what you feel you are trying to accomplish. I'm not here to shun or put anyone down but you better be ready to explain your comments if I don't understand where you're coming from when addressing mine. I was of the impression that we had that right here. And I expect that I will have to do the same if you are not satisfied with my responses as I have had to defend on several occassions. It's just impossible for me to believe that you know that things like "murder" can be a mistake in many cases when only God can know any given criminal's heart. Of course, once a criminal is incarserated and he knows that he might be in prison for the remainder of his/her life, he will seek God. His only other alternative is to stay on the side of sin, and many will "play their hand" to appear righteous to any councel that might be pardoning them in the long haul. Now, I don't mean to say that there are not some who will truly be sincere in their repentance to God, but that is why I originally told you that only God knows their true intentions/heart. Sorry, if we got crossed but some of these posts are dear to my heart and take a lot of effort to reveal. It's quite difficult for most men to open their hearts out to the world and allow others to take shots at them at their expense. But I am willing to do it only because of my deep love and devotion to God and for the sake of HIS people in the event that it might bring someone else closer to HIM who created us. In God Cajunboy

I can definately identify with your question ma'am. I have hearing loss that my doctor feels is Genetically attached. Much of my family has hearing losses of all degrees ranging from mild to serious. My father has the more severe case of hearing loss. He just spent almost $6000.00 on a set and he claims they are of little help to him because they come with their own set of noises/aggravations. You may or may not experiences the same depending on your type of loss and ability to adjust. Dad is 80 now and he cannot wear them and he's sicker because he feels he wasted the monies...lol I wouldn't rush into it, although I'm guessing that you have been told that it will only get worse. If that's the case , you might want to get started get adjusted to them now! Guess the only saving grace about this is that you don't have a total hearing disability. Prayers and best wishes Cajunboy

(Sinning just means you made a mistake? )hum...Interesting response. I wonder if the Jews who crucified Christ thought that "they just made a mistake?" (You will sin everyday? )hum....So try not to sin everyday. Sure, if you've made an error in judgement.....That's understandable. But if you can stop a direct, purposeful sin from happening.....why not think through it with God's help? What ever God puts in your heart that you have wronged someone or even wronged God......IS SIN! (You can try sining less, but you'll never stop sinning altogether) hum? Which would you choose if you had a choice, sinning less or sinnning all throughout the day?....That's what I thought! Try it......It just might work for you....It does for me! First of all, you should try taking things less personally. You asked for peoples opinions, and that's what I gave you. Since you didn't like my opinion you chose to tear it apart. It's funny because you clearly CHOSE to react this way, when in fact, it wasn't the most Christian way to act now was it? It kind of goes against what you're saying in this thread doesn't it? i stand by my post. Have you ever done something really stupid, by choice, and then thought about it after and said "WOW, that was a really huge mistake on my part". Well, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You chose to sin, but it was still a mistake. Even murder is a mistake if the person looks back on it and realizes what they've done and asks for forgiveness. Every single thing we've done wrong prior to becoming a christian was (yes you guessed it) a MISTAKE, or a SIN. Ma'am, nothing personal taken. However, I was searching more for Biblical structure more than man social opinions. Please refer to "Topic!" You said, "Even murder is a mistake if the person looks back on it and realizes what they've done and asks for forgiveness. " Not sure what Book of the Bible you pulled that one out of, but that's not what God acknoledges as a "mistake." And while you may be forgiven by God for committing murder, YOU MAY NOT BE FORGIVEN, if your hearts not right, and that's something only God can see! Thanks anyway?

This makes the most sense throughout this thread. I do have one question though. The post at the very beginning, left by cajun, I wonder how that is any different than what they teach in Anger Management. Not to say that cajun is a rageaholic, but it can be argued that while indeed setting his mind on God all day had helped him in several situations, it wasn't actually God that helped but the fact that he had conviction enough to focus on something other than the issue. They teach the same method in Anger Management. I also wonder if "Satan" is just an excuse to feel a certain way, like irritation or anger. Cajun, you mentioned "Satan setting his teeth in". But you have control, correct? You have control over what you feel and why. If you get irritated at another driver, its your feeling, brought on by things you dislike about idiot drivers. Blaming it on "satan" only misplaces responsibility. Its as though "satan" has more power over you than you. Is that true? Does "satan" have more power over us than we do? If so, that would make him a god, or demigod at least. We dont believe that do we? Do we? It's interesting that you would bring the latter part up because we actually had a whole discussion about "blaming it on Satan" in controversial. I'm gonna look for the thread and post it here. Okay HERE it is. (I do have one question though. The post at the very beginning, left by cajun, I wonder how that is any different than what they teach in Anger Management. Not to say that cajun is a rageaholic, but it can be argued that while indeed setting his mind on God all day had helped him in several situations, it wasn't actually God that helped but the fact that he had conviction enough to focus on something other than the issue. They teach the same method in Anger Management. ) Cajun notes:: Interesting that "Anger Management practices might try to take credit from what God acknowledged. God tells us to call on him when we are in doubt/trouble. I dare say that I'm ready for your "anger management" as I don't place much faith in man's abiblity to heel man in many social situations. If that were the case, more social workers and Psychiatrists would already be out of jobs. Interesting that in one paragraph one of you two seem to be hesitant about placing "blame on satan," and the other seems to be saying that there's no need to be asking for God's help if one has troubles with haphazard drivers on the road. (People who should be driving more and on the cell phones or watching DVD's, or reading the newspaper less while driving) Anyway, thanks for your opinions. I was sort of leaning more toward scripture in God's work ....not man's!

I guess I should of asked the question....can you be a christian and not be born again....the whole point is you can't be a christian unless you are born again.....so it is redundent to call yourself a born again christian. Also Nobody, I think some people have trouble with not adding the second term "Christian" because the term "christian" means to strive to be "like Christ." And the term to be "born again" means to lay your burdens before God and trust HIM to lead you. So I guess you could "lay your sins/burdens before God" and continue in your walk to be a Christian (strive to be like-Christ?) you think?

Hello Brother Dan I don't know if you've thought about this but could God be trying to tell you to learn to have more patience with your mother. I'm just wonder how a mother that seems so cold could mistreat a child that she bore, with such distance? The only think I have to question is possible she experienced something very similar in her life as well. I know I experienced for many years in my youth things very similar to you , but with my father. He was always around but not for his children. Oh, I guess he loved us, but because of the abuse he experienced in his early childhood, he couldn't show love to us. His love was always from a distance. Only now in his late age, is he able to show love. Before , in my childhood days he thought the way to show love was through money. Hence, we could have grown up very screwed up except for the gift of a blessed mother who had to tolerate his abuse and sortcomings. But mom knew God and taught us well. She taught us how to forgive and not be afraid to reach out to others and share our love with them, no matter how manly we seem, we all seek the gentle concern of another. We all have to depend on each other, ourselves while here on earth as well as knowing God is our Provider from Heaven. Blessings and Prayers brother Dan

Brother Dan, You have a world of knowledge from the point of where you fell, why would you want to punish yourself or insult God by starting all over? God led you TO it and HE will lead you THROUGH it. He never said "Begin again" right? Things like drugs and other vices, for instances are very powerful. As well as sexual sins. They are a stronhold that satan uses to manipulate many. But they hold no power when you are in God's Heavenly Hands. Until one gets the poison or sin out of their sysem, it will always call them back into it. Don't be fooled by satan that you have to begin all over. He is cunning and wise; even in his own foolishness. He can even fool God's people at times. But if you stand strong In Jesus' Name satan will leave you soon enough. And you willl know the Power of God. I will begin praying for you on my day off as we speak. Amen! Be Blessed Cajunboy

Respectfully Fraught, I only referring to someone who feels the need to have a "closer walk" with God. This topic was not designed to focus on those who still have fear in their lives. I am still young in God's eyes even though I'm in my mid-fifties, and fear of man has long sense left my soul. Now, I am concentrating on a "Closer Walk" with HIM. And the only way I know who to do this is through methods like this. God has directed another to show me this way and I find it did wonders to open new doors and ways to get even closer than I ever dreamed to God. I just thought someone else out there might be looking for other ways and avenues/paths to draw even nearer to HIM. Remember, if you don't knock HE can't answer!