7thseal

There's no doubt that graves were opened and dead raised during Christ being raised from the dead. But Scripture says they returned to their homes to give testament. That's not possible for all the old testament believers at the time. My question is were those that were raised, raised in their glorified bodies? Christ raised others from the dead when alive but not in their glorified bodies.... they had to die again. What exactly did Christ mean when He said the first shall be last and the last shall be first?

Now we we have two separate raises of the dead in Christ. According to the first (old testament believers) went back to their homes and gave witness of what happened....? Hmm old testament homes lasted longer than I thought.

Thanks for your patience, I figured these verses would be what you're considering. Before we go further regarding dates, I'd like to ask you a few simple questions. Did the old testament believers die in Christ? If yes, then when did they receive Holy Spirit? If no, then when do they receive their glorified bodies?

Sorry for my late response, its 4:45am here and I'm getting ready for work. I won't be able to check in very often as my daughter is on spring break from school and my family and I won't be at the house much during the last of it and the weekend. I will continue in this discussion though. As for the covenant I would begin by looking at this verse. Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. As for the one week being 7yrs. that would be based on this verse. I will have get deeper into this at a later time though. Have a blessed day. Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Well now we enter into another discussing concerning Daniel chapter 9. There's been many discussions on it here already and I'm sure it could easily lead to another with many interpretations. As for the temple being rebuilt, how does the Antichrist stop the sacrifice and claim to be god in the temple if one isn't built? I'll post the Scriptures if you don't know what I'm referring to.

The white horse ushers in the 7yr covenant with Israel and the surrounding middle east nations. This hasn't happened even though the world leaders are heavily pressuring Israel on this. Still... one particular individual will achieve it, then 3 1/2yrs later he breaks it (the same time Satan is cast down to earth and directly enters into him (Antichrist). Look what happens next in Revelation, he then makes war against both Israel and the Saints around the world. It seems to me that at the same time Satan is thrown down from heaven and finds that he's on earth according to Scripture, the rider of the red horse is given power to take peace from the world (start war). Can you see why in Revelation the world is being warned of satan's great fury when he's cast down to earth? Many are being killed and God's wraith on earth is being poured out during this time aswell. God Himself says that if He doesn't speed up time (ever how He does it) during this time no flesh would survive. The Great Tribulation, we haven't seen God's wraith yet nor do we desire to.

My question is that.... is fish considered meat? I love fishing and love eating it. Jesus died and was raised again in His glorified body yet set on the shore of the lake eating fish when the disciples spotted Him. I don't feel guilty eating fish.

All of these point to lost receiving truth, which is what I mentioned earlier. Once believing the truth of God's love and receiving it how can we fear love? Its our sinful body that disrupts it.

Scripture as I quoted earlier says that its the beginning of wisdom, not understanding. Fear of what God says the lost end up in leads to a decision. That choice is wisdom based on believing truth (Jesus Christ). Now understanding is responding to what Holy Spirit reveals to us after believing the truth... applying the truth in our daily lives. Holy Spirit always points to Jesus Christ and Jesus has given Word (truth) for every single thing that we face in life. Do we always keep it?

It's loving the Lord that you're after... not seeking more fear of Him. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. It's when we begin to stray from His words that we begin fearing Him, because Holy Spirit is revealing the truth in us. Keeping His words is appling them in our daily lives. Its extremely easy for me to personally stray away from this and thankfully Holy Spirit reveals the truth and draws me back through love... keeping His words. God has designed it perfectly... completely amazing! Now those not willing to consider nor apply His words.... now that's something that will bring true fear during God's judgement.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Romans 10:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Its not in place yet. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. The world is seeking strongly its own means of peace but without Jesus Christ. But when that destruction begins... there will be billions dying world wide.

Don't really agree with the pic as all saints will inherit the earth. Lake of fire is forever though and will be eternal.

Continue in reading the Scriptures. John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Oh satan is crafty indeed, causing a global problem then bringing in his greatest work (person) to fix it all, who will come in peaceably. But glory to God that in the end the only Prince of Peace will arrive Jesus Christ!

Amen, Philippians 2: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 1 Peter 5:. 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: 7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Same as always... obedience. How do we know that we're obeying? Why is Jesus so upset with the last 'church'? Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

1 Choices 2 For God's will to be done in our lives. 3 Choices... 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 4 Revelation: 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Once we focus on pleasing the Lord, everything else follows and somehow always works out. Trust Him.

As a testimony to His glory! Glory and praise to Jesus!

Demons will quickly point to religion as the answer to your problems. Being religious is simply a repetitive act... and a relationship with Jesus Christ has nothing to do with this. In a relationship you're speaking with and relying on Him daily for guidance during your problem at the exact moment. This requires seeking Him and most importantly responding to Him as He leads you by the Holy Spirit. Now you're faced as to whether you've received the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit always points to Jesus Christ... what did Jesus say? All of it is recorded in Scripture and it all deals with everyday life. We can read all we want and listening to all we want but do we apply it because we believe Jesus? Well that requires faith. God Himself says that we are saved by faith. Look closely at the Scriptures that FrensoJoe posted.....seek the Lord.

Israel is being pressured more than ever.

Has a covenant been made with Israel? Remember that it's after 3 1/2 yrs that its broken. Not yet have seen anything signed but pressure is greatly being applied to Israel.

Jesus warned that no peace will stand until he returns. Not even what the world has to offer will stand. Remember that a white horse means a global leader... a false one is coming quickly.

The rider of the white horse will bring Israel into agreement (peace deal) with the surrounding nations. He'll break it 3 1/2 yrs later and claim to be god. No deal is reached yet but Israel is being pressured more than ever since America is no longer an supporter.