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I have a few questions, sorry if they have been answered elsewhere already.

My question refer to the views / beliefs held by modern day jews.

1 - do they acknowledge sin?

2 - do they believe sin separates them from God in a salvational sense?

3 - some people will say that the concept of salvation was not as clearly defined in the OT. Do modern day jews have a concept of salvation?

4 - what do modern day jews believe saves them? or why do they believe they have eternal life?

OK, I have lots of questions, sorry in advance! I just don't understand :cool:.

Also... and you might be able to just point me to a thread that answers this already, but how is modern day judaism different from biblical judaism that I read about in the OT?

Thanks!


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I have a few questions, sorry if they have been answered elsewhere already.

My question refer to the views / beliefs held by modern day jews.

1 - do they acknowledge sin?

2 - do they believe sin separates them from God in a salvational sense?

3 - some people will say that the concept of salvation was not as clearly defined in the OT. Do modern day jews have a concept of salvation?

4 - what do modern day jews believe saves them? or why do they believe they have eternal life?

OK, I have lots of questions, sorry in advance! I just don't understand :).

Also... and you might be able to just point me to a thread that answers this already, but how is modern day judaism different from biblical judaism that I read about in the OT?

Thanks!

(((((Oscar))))

I would also love to know.

Please inform me when you got some anwers

lv

lomi

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Where salvation is concerned, Judaism does not view salvation in terms of "invidual salvation." Salvation is corporate. The salvation the Messiah will bring, in Jewish theology is for the world as a whole.

They do not believe that man is born inherently sinful and thus do not see a need for each person to need salvation. Unlike Christianity, Judaism does not believe that sin is passed down from Adam, thus they do not accept the doctrine of "original sin."


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Where salvation is concerned, Judaism does not view salvation in terms of "invidual salvation." Salvation is corporate. The salvation the Messiah will bring, in Jewish theology is for the world as a whole.

They do not believe that man is born inherently sinful and thus do not see a need for each person to need salvation. Unlike Christianity, Judaism does not believe that sin is passed down from Adam, thus they do not accept the doctrine of "original sin."

Thanks,

can you elaborate more abot this.

Sorry I am not so clued up on Judaism as on hinduism, muslims & tamils.

lv

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Judaism as we know it, began in 72 AD. The Biblical relgion of Israel and rabbinic Judaism are not the same thing.

Rabbinic Judaism is an adjustment to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. The only religious sect to survive that event was the Pharisees. Modern Judaism is essentially Pharsaism.

After the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, the question arose as to how "Jewishness" would be defined. Up until that time, their religion centered around the Temple system. It was decided in 72 AD by Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai in the Israelite Rabbinic Academy at Yavneh that the mitzva'ot (commandents/good works) would replace the sacrifices until the Temple was rebuilt.

Unfortunately, Judaism sees itself as going all the way back to Mt. Sinai, but that is just not true.


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I have a few questions, sorry if they have been answered elsewhere already.

My question refer to the views / beliefs held by modern day jews.

1 - do they acknowledge sin?

2 - do they believe sin separates them from God in a salvational sense?

3 - some people will say that the concept of salvation was not as clearly defined in the OT. Do modern day jews have a concept of salvation?

4 - what do modern day jews believe saves them? or why do they believe they have eternal life?

OK, I have lots of questions, sorry in advance! I just don't understand :).

Also... and you might be able to just point me to a thread that answers this already, but how is modern day judaism different from biblical judaism that I read about in the OT?

Thanks!

Hey MummieOscar,

Very good question! I do believe Shiloh was correct in saying that the Jews don't feel sin is individualized. They would make atonements for the nation. I have always been intriged by the Jewish traditions and have done much studies. But for anyone that has even glimped momentarily into the Jewish ways, knows it's a very complicated yet enlightning way of life. notice I say way of life and not religion. They are able to take the words of God, as we should and use them interchangably to note how one should walk in their life. I am by NO means an authority on this subject though, so I will give you a link and pray that it helps with your questions.

http://whatjewsbelieve.org/explanation02.html

Take care,

With love in Christ.


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Wow, thanks Shiloh for the informative reply.

I have a question.... If the modern jews are essentially pharisees, does they mean that they are not the beloved chosen ones of God?

Murse - thanks for the link :emot-questioned: I will read it later today.

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Wow, thanks Shiloh for the informative reply.

I have a question.... If the modern jews are essentially pharisees, does they mean that they are not the beloved chosen ones of God?

Murse - thanks for the link :emot-questioned: I will read it later today.

Well first of all, even the Pharisees were the beloved chosen of God.

Secondly, I did not say that modern Jews are Pharisees. I said that Pharisaism became Judaism as an adjustment to losing the Temple. The Pharisees as a sect no longer exist. But their traditions by in large, live on in Modern Judaism.


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Well many reform Jews in the US don't even acknowledge God, let alone sin. Many Jews today are sadly athiest or agnostic.

Still of course they are Jewish and part of God's plan. I do find it odd that you can be an athiest and still be considered Jewish, but if you convert to Christianity you are not considered a Jew, I find that bizare.

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