nebula Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Another one I got through e-mails: **************************************************************** Worst president in history? With all the bad news on TV and in the news magazines about Iraq and President Bush, I'm having a hard time keeping things in perspective. This helped me. Perhaps it will benefit you. Worst president in history? Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution, the death toll and other details of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: President Bush didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11. Let's look at the 'worst' president and mismanagement claims. FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. >From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. >From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. Over 2,900 lives lost on 9/11/01. In the two+ years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot; captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home. Worst president in history? Come on!! The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but... It took less time to take Iraq then it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation. We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records. It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappquiddick. It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!! Our military is not perfect, but still the best around!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work in Progress Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,111 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 35 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2004 Thanks, Neb, great post! The fact is, Saddam Hussein is no longer able to commit the atrocities he freely committed in the past. Period. Thanks to the guts of our leader who, in the face of severe criticism, did what needed done, that 17 UN resolutions didn't do, that no one else had the guts to do. And he's taking the heat for it like a man. The fact is, enough serin and musturd gas has been found in Iraq to annihilate half a million people, and those half million people are now safe, thanks to the guts of our leader who, in the face of severe criticism, did what needed done, that the UN didn't have the guts to do. And he's taking the heat for it like a man. IMO, the worst President ever was Teddy Roosevelt. All the social programs that now, decades later, enable people to skip that pesky thing - work - and live off of the working man were started by him. He taught the masses that one should expect a free hand-out when times are tough, and annihilated the work ethic. Years later, those same programs are draining the system and enabling generations of lazy people to believe they are 'entitled' to them. He also showed great contempt for our Constitution by blatantly ignoring it and defying it in his policies. For interesting reading with documented facts about this, see G. Gordon Liddy's book entitled "When I was Young, America was Still Free". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Thanks Nebula, that really puts it in perspective. Personally I think Jimmy Carter was the worst president ever, and now he's the worst ex-president ever too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Thanks Nebula, that really puts it in perspective. Personally I think Jimmy Carter was the worst president ever, and now he's the worst ex-president ever too! :x: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2004 While Bush may not be the worst president in history, he's quickly learning the American people are sick of being fed a line as an excuse to go to war. After 2 other wars that cost american lives the public is sensitive to losing troops. If the President can't find a reason to justify the war then he deserves to get voted out of office. The fact is, Saddam Hussein is no longer able to commit the atrocities he freely committed in the past. Period. Thanks to the guts of our leader who, in the face of severe criticism, did what needed done, that 17 UN resolutions didn't do, that no one else had the guts to do. Unfortunately people in our government put him in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution, the death toll and other details of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: President Bush didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11. Let's look at the 'worst' president and mismanagement claims. FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. >From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. >From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. Over 2,900 lives lost on 9/11/01. In the two+ years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot; captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home. Worst president in history? Come on!! The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but... It took less time to take Iraq then it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation. We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records. It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappquiddick. It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!! That really puts it into perspective for those who love the truth.... thanks Nebula!! :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work in Progress Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,111 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 35 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2004 Unfortunately people in our government put him in office. Please. That old argument has been deflated already. Time for a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2004 (edited) Leonard, just out of Curiosity what makes you think Jimmy Carter was the worst president ever? Work in Progress: Deflated how? It has been shown that Saddam was put in office by the CIA and other portions of our govenment. The evidence has been well documented. Not exactly something to be proud of, but ignoring that it happened is just as bad. Edited June 30, 2004 by Steff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,550 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/15/1943 Share Posted June 30, 2004 While Bush may not be the worst president in history, he's quickly learning the American people are sick of being fed a line as an excuse to go to war. Sounds almost like liberal Democrat propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted June 30, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 827 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 12,101 Content Per Day: 1.50 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 04/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2004 Thanks Neb! I needed to read all that! You go girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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