lekh l'kha Posted July 10, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 830 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2009 [...] with codes and instructions for reproduction contained within their DNA (which resemble mathematical codes that under normal circumstances only incredibly advanced intelligence could provide) [...] I have no interest in the evolution debate, however I will point out that mathematics is merely an artifact of human consciousness; it has no bearing on whether or not something was intelligently designed. Any sufficiently large set will contain apparent patterns. An artifact of human consciousness? Mathematics? So it's some slapdash holdover from....uh, what? In order to be an artifact it would need to be left over from a previous state. Would that be the amoebas we supposedly evolved from? I'm sorry but any accident that repeats, forms closed areas of repeatability and reproduces itself is NO accident. Even the most cement headed among us should recognize that. I'm not certain you're familiar with the use of "artifact" within this context. ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted July 10, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2009 [...] with codes and instructions for reproduction contained within their DNA (which resemble mathematical codes that under normal circumstances only incredibly advanced intelligence could provide) [...] I have no interest in the evolution debate, however I will point out that mathematics is merely an artifact of human consciousness; it has no bearing on whether or not something was intelligently designed. Any sufficiently large set will contain apparent patterns. An artifact of human consciousness? Mathematics? So it's some slapdash holdover from....uh, what? In order to be an artifact it would need to be left over from a previous state. Would that be the amoebas we supposedly evolved from? I'm sorry but any accident that repeats, forms closed areas of repeatability and reproduces itself is NO accident. Even the most cement headed among us should recognize that. I'm not certain you're familiar with the use of "artifact" within this context. ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasputin89 Posted July 10, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 12 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2009 Don't feed the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Pause To Burn The Straws First Things In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1 Bad Things For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23 Bad News For the wages of sin is death; Romans 6:23(a) Good News but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23(b) End Times News For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Romans 14:11-12 And The Joy Fulled News And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. Revelation 22:3-4 No Matter How Many Words Are Printed Science And Science Fiction Is Kind Of Blind To The Really Important Things Of Life You Think Love, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 11, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Boy, has this topic ever gone away from the OP! But since we're here, I might as well throw out this thought. The reason we reject the theory of evolution is because it makes as much sense to us as someone taking a motor scooter, and then with a little change here and a little change there, over time, ending up with a large SUV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sysvr4 Posted July 11, 2009 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/22/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2009 Boy, has this topic ever gone away from the OP! But since we're here, I might as well throw out this thought. The reason we reject the theory of evolution is because it makes as much sense to us as someone taking a motor scooter, and then with a little change here and a little change there, over time, ending up with a large SUV. Imperceptibly small changes made over any sufficient length of time cumulatively result in macroscopically significant changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 11, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Imperceptibly small changes made over any sufficient length of time cumulatively result in macroscopically significant changes. And that means . . . what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sysvr4 Posted July 11, 2009 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/22/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2009 Imperceptibly small changes made over any sufficient length of time cumulatively result in macroscopically significant changes. And that means . . . what? ... Essentially, it means that if you make a lot of little changes over a long time, you'll end up with what would appear as a larger change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 11, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 OK . . . but that still doesn't get one from a motor scooter to an SUV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted July 11, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,067 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 427 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2009 Imperceptibly small changes made over any sufficient length of time cumulatively result in macroscopically significant changes. And that means . . . what? ... Essentially, it means that if you make a lot of little changes over a long time, you'll end up with what would appear as a larger change. I don't have a scooter or need a SUV, but can you do that with my kayak, cause I would really like a yacht for a while? About how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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