Sh`Ma

[JohnD]

Hello and Shalom

One of my very favorite subjects of meditation inthe word concerns the multiplicity of our God... the fact He is a trinity and yet one. I love reading through passages and suddenly thinking "WOW, this has been there all along hinting at the fact that our 1 God is 3 individuals unified as 1 God. I dont pretend to understand how... God is all mighty and all powerful and i cant explain how he made the universe from nothing, but this doesnt detract from the truth He did, nor does it detract from the fact that 3 are 1.

I was reading the Shema... thinking of how Caiaphas quoted it as he rent his clothing during the trial of Christ. It occurred to em that this indeed was most ironic...

The Shema, as its called by religious Jews, whether messianic or rabbinical, is Deuteronomy 6:4, and gets its name from the very first word in the passage. It literally means "HEAR!"

Deuteronomy 6:4

Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

Caiaphas crucified our Lord by the hands of Pilot, on the charge that He made Himself equal with God, citing the very Shema itself as his justification... is it possible that he never considered the depth of the words? Was it fear of losing his position, was it pride? Who knows... i do know the very passage he cited to crucify our Lord was the one passage which should have given him reason to pause and think... reconsider...

Today we have many who believe in our God, but they do not believe Jesus is God... they may believe He is a good man, maybe they believe He was a deceiver, maybe a wonderful philosopher, but they believe there is one God and one alone... they ARE correct in a manner, yet the shema shows us the error of their thinking as well...

In Genesis, and all through the OT, God is called, in the Hebrew, "Elohim", which is the plural for "God" but here we have Eloheynu. This is nothing more than "Elohim" in the first person plural possessive, which causes us to add an "Our" to the noun. This word then literally means "Our Gods"... in the plural

So what does the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4) say?

Deuteronomy 6:4

Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

Breaking this down in the Hebrew, here is what we have...

shema`Yisra'el YHWH 'Eloheynu YHWH echad

What an extremely interesting passage!

Shema=Hear, this is where we get the title for this passage... the Shema

Shema Yisra'el, = "Hear o Israel!"

YHWH= The Eternal One

Eloheynu= Our GODS

echad= ONE... but it has a very interesting usage... it is used ALWAYS to show severla units or things commbined into ONE unit... like 50 pennys is " 'echad' roll of pennys". It is ONE having been made ONE by 2 or more being items joined as ONE

YHWH= Eternal One

in other words...

HEAR O ISRAEL!!! THE ETERNAL ONE IS Our GODS UNITED OR JOINED AS ONE ETERNAL ONE!!!

This i would consider to be a very early referance to the Trinity. This doesnt specify a Trinity, doesnt specify ANY number, but it does specify more than one united or joined as one.

"Echad" is a key word here

I tried to comment, but this was the only "shingle" that would respond, so I`ll just say it here...

regarding the "Sh'Ma, for years now, I`ve simply considered the word "One" to denote status, rank, rather than number...

As in "Hear oh Israel, Yahveh our God is 'number One'"...

As in "Lord of hosts', or "God of gods", God above all other Spiritual entities...

Why??? Well, because I`ve noticed that modern "Jews" use the "number", the belief that it denotes a strict singularity to counter our belief in the Triune nature of God...

It was thrown at me continuously while attempting to study Hebrew in Synagogue, and so I began to pray over the matter. To make supplication before God regarding the matter...

And this was the answer... And it makes sense that the Israelites would say this at the beginning of such a Prayer as the Sh'Ma is part of rather than simply pulling a doctrinal issue out of the air and begin a prayer in such a fashion...

It`s one of those incongruities that break the flow of Scripture and betray the nature and character of God as portrayed throughout Scripture...

Amen.

Non-Messianic Jew Michael Medved (the film critic and radio talkshow host) spoke in synagogue on the matter saying he noticed how being a Jew today is almost entirely about how not Christian they are rather than how Jewish they are.

He wondered why. I wrote but never got a response. It's because the Jews are running from their own God and disbelieving their own Bible.

And this is no slam against Jews. Rather, the teaching of the 1st Century CE Sanhedrin (which Jesus called the leaven of the Pharisees) from a satanic process of infiltration going back as far as the formation of that governing body of elders... which has robbed millions of Jews of salvation and their beloved Messiah.

[Guest]

He wondered why. I wrote but never got a response. It's because the Jews are running from their own God and disbelieving their own Bible.

And this is no slam against Jews. Rather, the teaching of the 1st Century CE Sanhedrin (which Jesus called the leaven of the Pharisees) from a satanic process of infiltration going back as far as the formation of that governing body of elders... which has robbed millions of Jews of salvation and their beloved Messiah....

And So We Pray

Hosanna LORD, Save Now~!

In Yeshua, Amen~!

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Abba

You Are So Merciful And So Gracious

For Your Name's Sake LORD Fill All Israel With Your Love And Your Peace

And Bless The Holy Name Of Yesua, Your Only Begotten Son

Hallelujahh~! Hallellujah~! Hallelujah~!

Glory~! Glory~! Glory~! Glory~!

To The KING OF KINGS~!

KING Of The JEW~!

Jesus~!

Maranatha And Amen

I Love You

Your Joe

[He giveth more grace]

I think you are in error in your interpretation, the Bible is repleat with God saying, I am one, and beside me there is not another. It means quantity not status or position.

[JohnD]

Yeah, like...

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

[Guest]

Our God

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: Deuteronomy 6:4-6

Is One

It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:17-19

LORD

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 1 Corinthians 12:3

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I think you are in error in your interpretation, the Bible is replete with God saying, I am one, and beside me there is not another. It means quantity not status or position....

Beloved~!

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There

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 44:6

Is No Question

For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Isaiah 54:5

Abba Father Loves His Holy Son

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. Psalms 2:10-12

And I Thank Him So

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Galatians 4:6

His Father

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

And His Holy Son

Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:27-28

Forever My Lord And My God

And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. Revelation 22:3-4

Amen~!

[He giveth more grace]

Besides, that vernacular language "number one" is not in the vernacular of the Bible, it would be like "dude" or "cool" being in the Bible.

[Capnmike02]

I think you are in error in your interpretation, the Bible is repleat with God saying, I am one, and beside me there is not another. It means quantity not status or position.

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The Hebrew culture of that time had no qualms in using such idioms as you should see in their references to "Baalzebub/ Baalzebul" one being a respectful the other a derogatory term regarding "Baal"...

Their's is not an antiseptic, purely religious/legalistic language...

In fact Scripture is replete with such, full of idiomatic speech, plays on words and such...

Some proper names could have multiple meanings portraying the character of their possessors...

Edited July 26, 2012 by Capnmike02

[Capnmike02]

I think you are in error in your interpretation, the Bible is repleat with God saying, I am one, and beside me there is not another. It means quantity not status or position.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Hebrew culture of that time had no qualms in using such idioms as you should see in their references to "Baalzebub/ Baalzebul" one being a respectful the other a derogatory term regarding "Baal"...

Their's is not an antiseptic, purely religious/legalistic language...

In fact Scripture is replete with such, full of idiomatic speech, plays on words and such...

Some proper names could have multiple meanings portraying the character of their possessors...

[Capnmike02]

Besides, that vernacular language "number one" is not in the vernacular of the Bible, it would be like "dude" or "cool" being in the Bible.

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"Lord of Lords, God of Gods, Lord of Hosts"???

[JohnD]

You know, there are threads where the plurality of individuals in the Godhead is explained (Trinitarianism) I know 'cause I seen 'em and posted biblical evidence for the Trinity doctrine over and over and over again. Monarchy, won't you please go there and debate your oneness theology there?