nebula Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I wasn't sure where to post this . . . . I thought "Controversial," but I didn't want to restrict this from anyone. But I wanted to share this. ~~~ First some background. While it seems we have some that seem to believe practically any conspiracy claim floating around, there are many who will automatically shun anything and everything that has a "conspiracy" hint to it. Me? I believe most are ridiculous (i.e. the Moon hoax). However, the way things are going down, I am more convinced that there is something going on "behind the scenes" - whether it's Illuminati or something else (hey, the Illuminati could actually be a cover for all I know). So what does this have to do with the OP title? ~~~ Well, I've felt convicted for a long time that I should be praying for Obama's salvation. But I haven't been able to get passed my anger and other negative attitudes towards him to truly pray for him as I should. But I'm beginning to consider that Obama is not the problem, not the cause, but a mask, a front-man, a puppet if you will, taking "orders" from elsewhere to deliver agendas to the people (relying on his charisma and public speaking abilities . . . on top of the "messiah" hype lavished upon him during the campaign . . . who started that anyway?). So taking this perspective is helping me to find the heart to pray for him with sincerity. Just thought I'd share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2009 I've been praying for him since he was elected. I don't believe him to be an evil man; just a deceived one who desperately needs the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 One suggestion - go back and read Romans 13. Like I said . . . I couldn't do so when there was so much anger and such getting in the way . . . which were hindrances to my prayers. With this perspective, I am finding a way to remove those hindrances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 I did. And this is the answer I've been praying for. HELLO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2009 I've been praying for him since he was elected. I don't believe him to be an evil man; just a deceived one who desperately needs the Lord. I too, have been praying for his Salvation since he took office. I've always prayed for our leaders - their devotion to National Interests and that God would lead them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2009 I've been praying that God would use this utterly deceived world leader the same way that He used Pharoah in the times of Joseph, to Save His people. At the same time I pray for the President's Salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted September 7, 2009 How do we know he is not saved now? I mean we can disagree with him radically, but I think most people here would say that works do not save us one way or the other so how can we tell if he is saved or not? I do pray for him to be a good leader and to change his views on abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 He's embarrassed about Jesus. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.95 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted September 7, 2009 He's embarrassed about Jesus. 'Nuff said. He's not embarrassed by Islam. Closet Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted September 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted September 7, 2009 No he claims to have had a born again experience and claims Christ. So given that works do not save us and so if he was saved once, regardless we have to go by his words right? I am being somewhat sarcastic here and I have to apologize a little. I don't know if he is a Christian or not, I do not make those sorts of judgments, I don't understand how any Christian could support abortion so this would be very questionable for me. But are we not being a little hypocritical here, we claim to hold to a once saved always saved idea, and also that we do not have to repent and worry about hell for individual sins, all future sins are forgiven, well if Obama has had the born again experience and trusts Jesus as his Lord, than his sin of supporting abortion would be forgiven, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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