Fez Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted November 6, 2009 The news here is saying that he was about to be deployed to Iraq. His family is quoted as saying that it was his worst nightmare, and there had been "some abuse". When I was in the army you went where they sent you to dodge bullets. I had no choice, I was conscripted. But surely if you join as your own choice you have to understand that that is what armed forces do? Deploy? And your personal feelings don't actually matter, they can't, otherwise where would we be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 6, 2009 The news here is saying that he was about to be deployed to Iraq. His family is quoted as saying that it was his worst nightmare, and there had been "some abuse". Blessings, Fez I think what you are hearing about "some abuse" is spin. The shooter was a superior officer. Superior officers don't get abused by those under him without reprimand. Nikki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSLewis Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 828 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1980 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Ummm . . . yeah, expression . . . "flip" goes with something else we shall not mention here. OK, getting back on topic. . . . Wow I am still really shocked that one shooter shot and killed 12 and wounded 30 with two handguns. An experienced shooter can empty a 15 round clip in a semi-automatic in seven or eight seconds. He could empty two clips before people had time to react. fierce. And sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted November 6, 2009 The news here is saying that he was about to be deployed to Iraq. His family is quoted as saying that it was his worst nightmare, and there had been "some abuse". Blessings, Fez I think what you are hearing about "some abuse" is spin. The shooter was a superior officer. Superior officers don't get abused by those under him without reprimand. Nikki Probably. You can't believe half of what you hear on the news anyway, and the family is also possibly searching for reasons as to why he would have done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 6, 2009 12 Dead, 31 Wounded in Shooting at Fort Hood in Texas Thursday, November 05, 2009 A shooting rampage Thursday afternoon at the Army's Fort Hood in Texas killed 11 and wounded 31 before the gunman was killed and two suspects taken into custody. All three of the people believed to have carried out the shooting were soldiers, Lt. General Bob Cone told reporters Thursday evening, though the motive remains unclear. AP cites an unnamed source saying the gunman was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, though authorities have not publicly identified him. Read the rest here When is our self blinded government ever going to wake up to the fact that Muslims simply can not ever be trusted? This is not the first time a Muslim in our armed services has gone out and used our own weapons to murder our own. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted November 6, 2009 There are also literally hundreds (thousands maybe?) of muslim soldiers who have deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan over the past 8 years or so who have conducted themselves honorably and served the US with distinction right along side everyone else. Let's not lose sight of that fact while we continue to search for answers. t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 6, 2009 There are also literally hundreds (thousands maybe?) of muslim soldiers who have deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan over the past 8 years or so who have conducted themselves honorably and served the US with distinction right along side everyone else. Let's not lose sight of that fact while we continue to search for answers. t. I guess you have a point but it's just hard to remember that when something like this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 6, 2009 Hey, Captaine Congenial, I read you. So then, in admittedly knowing the Islamic Qur'an & the Hadiths, you have surely come to grips with its violent tenets imposed on all Muslims, whether American or Iranian or whatever. Au contraire, Mr. Obama quite evidently has yet to come to grips with its reality. It's a seventh-philosophy born & bred in the pits of hell by its own violent declarations against all others. Muhammad Atta's death-cry of "Allahu Akbar!" re the WTC and as repeated by alleged mass-murderer Hasan was recorded in The National Post as well as Fox Breaking News. Ah, voila, we've got ourselves a beautiful Kodak Moment, yes? If, by the above, you mean am I aware that a truly devout muslim is commanded by 'allah' (the former moon-god) to spread islam by the sword and to take neither Christian nor Jew as a friend....yes. Do I understand that islam is a geopolitical movement bent on world domination? Yes. I've read the Qu'ran extensively and understand the basic tenets of that belief system. I'm fully aware that islam is satan's very own 'religion.' That being said, I did hear on Fox this afternoon that Hasan shouted 'Allah Akbar' in Arabic before firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 6, 2009 There are also literally hundreds (thousands maybe?) of muslim soldiers who have deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan over the past 8 years or so who have conducted themselves honorably and served the US with distinction right along side everyone else. Let's not lose sight of that fact while we continue to search for answers. t. I'm glad that somebody had the nerve to make this observation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing Posted November 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 400 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,903 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/19/1942 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Ummm . . . yeah, expression . . . "flip" goes with something else we shall not mention here. OK, getting back on topic. . . . Wow I am still really shocked that one shooter shot and killed 12 and wounded 30 with two handguns. Any Glock 9mm can handle a 33rd. magazine. Also the berreta 92f, which the army now issues, has a 20rd. mag. If eather of this gun's were used, it would be no trouble to do this much damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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