OneLight Posted December 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2009 The now infamous Christa blasphemy of a female "Christ" on a crucifix at the Cathedral of St John the Divine in NYC and Holy Comforter Episcopal Church in Richmond VA. I've been in the Holy Comforter Episcopal Church a number of times for meetings and work that they do in coordination with other denominations for the needy in central Virginia and I have never seen a female "Christ" in the church - do you have information on this? This church is very involved with the Richmond community and helps care for thousands of less fortunate and has many outreach ministries that involve many denominations. I have never seen anything like this in their church. I would also like to see more on this myself. *WARNING* ... do not Google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted December 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2009 The now infamous Christa blasphemy of a female "Christ" on a crucifix at the Cathedral of St John the Divine in NYC and Holy Comforter Episcopal Church in Richmond VA. I've been in the Holy Comforter Episcopal Church a number of times for meetings and work that they do in coordination with other denominations for the needy in central Virginia and I have never seen a female "Christ" in the church - do you have information on this? This church is very involved with the Richmond community and helps care for thousands of less fortunate and has many outreach ministries that involve many denominations. I have never seen anything like this in their church. I would also like to see more on this myself. *WARNING* ... do not Google it. Too late... good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted December 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 4.86 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted December 13, 2009 1st Timothy4:1,2 mention how people in these times will depart from the faith(christianity that is), and that their conscience will be seared with a hot iron. It is obvious that this is going on left, right and centre. I see many who used to profess Jesus as their Lord, and stand for the gospel, that are now into wicca, paganism, are now claiming to be agnostics or atheists, and some even getting into satanism. What would you say is the cause(s) of the problem? None of these other paths can bring life to people. Only Jesus can, so why are so many people turning away from Jesus??? Because the Church is not preaching the Cross; those who "walk away" never had Christ and His Salvation to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsca777 Posted December 14, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 247 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/27/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/04/1973 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 1st Timothy4:1,2 mention how people in these times will depart from the faith(christianity that is), and that their conscience will be seared with a hot iron. It is obvious that this is going on left, right and centre. I see many who used to profess Jesus as their Lord, and stand for the gospel, that are now into wicca, paganism, are now claiming to be agnostics or atheists, and some even getting into satanism. What would you say is the cause(s) of the problem? None of these other paths can bring life to people. Only Jesus can, so why are so many people turning away from Jesus??? Because the Church is not preaching the Cross; those who "walk away" never had Christ and His Salvation to begin with. Parker, that passgae of scripture in 1st Timothy4:1 does mention that they will depart from the faith. Therefore, they were once part of the faith. There are those who did accept Jesus and were following Him at some time, it's just that they backslid and stopped believing. I know of a guy who was once standing for Christ at a secular forum that I used to post regularly in. He evangelised and proclaimed the gospel and the need for salvation. He's now professing to be agnostic. He's no longer walking with God and living with girl whom he's not yet married to. This is a guy who used to stand for righteousness and truth, but now living in sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted December 14, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 4.86 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I'm not going to get into a discussion of OSAS, but no one who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit can lose their salvation for He is our guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsylady Posted December 14, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2009 Why Are So Many People Turning Away From Christianity These Days? I think another reason has something to do with the North American perception of Christian - a self-righteous judge who looks down on others and has a large list of "thou shalt nots" to follow, and is just too good to socialize with lowly sinners, else they may become tainted. While this is the image often highlighted in the media, I think we all know a few people who did act this way. I know I did and it turned me away from Christianity for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nqueue Posted December 15, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 6 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/06/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted December 15, 2009 Why Are So Many People Turning Away From Christianity These Days? I think another reason has something to do with the North American perception of Christian - a self-righteous judge who looks down on others and has a large list of "thou shalt nots" to follow, and is just too good to socialize with lowly sinners, else they may become tainted. While this is the image often highlighted in the media, I think we all know a few people who did act this way. I know I did and it turned me away from Christianity for years. I think htis raises the whole question of whether we can truly distinguish the religion of Jesus Christ from the religion of the Pharisees - something I've tried to address a little bit on PhariseeChurch.com. We need to remember that it was the religious establishment of his time that was the prime mover in crucifying Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botz Posted December 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,492 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 191 Days Won: 18 Joined: 03/29/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted December 15, 2009 Why Are So Many People Turning Away From Christianity These Days? I think another reason has something to do with the North American perception of Christian - a self-righteous judge who looks down on others and has a large list of "thou shalt nots" to follow, and is just too good to socialize with lowly sinners, else they may become tainted. While this is the image often highlighted in the media, I think we all know a few people who did act this way. I know I did and it turned me away from Christianity for years. I think htis raises the whole question of whether we can truly distinguish the religion of Jesus Christ from the religion of the Pharisees - something I've tried to address a little bit on PhariseeChurch.com. We need to remember that it was the religious establishment of his time that was the prime mover in crucifying Jesus. And yet Jesus is often considered to have been a Pharisee Himself, and there were some really good people amongst the Pharisee's not least Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea, and of course Paul who still considered himself a Pharisee when he knew Jesus. It wasn't because they were Pharisees that Jesus high-lighted their many inconsistancies, but because of the nature of some of them...and He spoke to them harshly at times, but also in the context of family, and when He was dying He said 'Father forgive them, because they don't know what they are doing'. I think the Western Church has a peculiar and biased approach to the whole concept behind the teachings of the L-rd that at times put many of the Pharisees on the spot...and somehow want to point the finger and perpetuate the myth of what terrible hypocrites and unpleasant people the Pharisees, His brethren were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted December 17, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The now infamous Christa blasphemy of a female "Christ" on a crucifix at the Cathedral of St John the Divine in NYC and Holy Comforter Episcopal Church in Richmond VA. I've been in the Holy Comforter Episcopal Church a number of times for meetings and work that they do in coordination with other denominations for the needy in central Virginia and I have never seen a female "Christ" in the church - do you have information on this? This church is very involved with the Richmond community and helps care for thousands of less fortunate and has many outreach ministries that involve many denominations. I have never seen anything like this in their church. This occurred many years ago. Look up 'Christa crucifix' online. The 'artist' who did the sculpture is Edwina Sandys, you might try looking under 'Edwina Sandys Christa statue'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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