Seeking God, God Seeking You

[Blien]

I have been talking with God this evening... if indeed it was God. I bound Satan and told him to get out... but here is something I'm wondering. My question is those of you who are born again charismatic/evangelicals.

I went to a service recently and when I was there.. I asked for them to pray for me to receive tounges. I felt as if a fire was burning in my spirit man from the bottom of my feet to the top of my knees and up my thighs. It would have consumed me if I did not resist. Remember this was in the spirit not my flesh.

Anyway.. for years now I saw people who would fall down when they had an "encounter" and such a meeting. I always thought it phony as if they were pretending.. but during this prayer meeting when I felt that rising (controlled) fire, I felt my knees giving way and I saw my self in a vision, what would happen if I let myself be consumed by it. That I too would have fell down as they did...

Well... what surprised me the most was also I was breathing very heavy, almost as if I was about to burst into tears. I felt emotionally overwhelmed by it. That I said no.. and that fire ceased in its raising and left me alone.

Today (several days after that experience)... I was seeking God in my home. I was seeking Him and seeking Him. Then I felt myself being overwhelmed with emotion. All I was doing was praying and seeking God. Nothing weird. I still don't speak tongues.. so it was normal English conversation with God. What was I saying? I was telling Him how much I wanted Him and how I want to be trained to be obedient as Christ was because I read about Hebrews 5:8 "Even though Jesus was God’s Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered."... so I was asking Him (God) to help me to learn the same thing because I wanted to be well pleasing to Him, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

I just found my heart pounding faster and faster, I was being so overwhelmed by this spiritual prescence that came. I knew it wanted my heart and it was asking me, to die. Saying, Jesus died and was raised to life you will too. "And a seed which does not die, does not bear fruit."... every question I had this spirit answered it from the Bible... This spirit wanted my Heart. I dont know if it was the Devil who wanted my Heart or God.

I don't trust a spirit just because it does that because the Devil tested Jesus in the wilderness in the same way. So here is my question to you guys (sorry for being long winded)...

Did GOD really ask you to die? And did you feel your heart being faster and faster and you came to the point where you have surrendered your HEART to God? Was it truly God??? I need discernment..

[BFP]

You are learning discernment, between you and the Lord. No one else can tell you whether your experience was actually from the Lord. I was once where you are now, fresh out of a demonic experience and very very sensitive to the spirits around me. I couldn't tell which were bad and which were good alot of the time...but God brought me through all that. Now I don't seek the 'exciting' spiritual things. God is much more quiet and I have learned his voice, I have learned to simply be obediant and wait on Him at times, and at other times I know He is speaking to me but it isn't an audible voice anymore...it is more like confirmations...a thought placed in my mind and then confirmed with a word from a friend, or something like that.

One thing I often did back then was claim the Blood of Jesus over myself and my property, family, children. When you are confused Claim the Blood of Jesus. Say it out loud. And you will know God is there with you.

[Botz]

Blien...some people tend to hyper-ventilate with emotion and get deprived of oxygen, light-headed and imagine things.

When I was baptised in the Holy Spirit, I heard G-d speak directly to me, It felt like fire from the top of my head to my toes, tongues poured out and so did masses of praise and ecstatic rejoicing....and I wasn't even actively seeking for any of this.

I think if you look for G-d in all of it, and not for experiences, keep your heart pure, desire holiness, and don't get too intense, then G-d will give you the desires of your heart...read Acts and let faith arise. Enjoy and be remarkably blessed. Botz.

[Blien]

You are learning discernment, between you and the Lord. No one else can tell you whether your experience was actually from the Lord. I was once where you are now, fresh out of a demonic experience and very very sensitive to the spirits around me. I couldn't tell which were bad and which were good alot of the time...but God brought me through all that. Now I don't seek the 'exciting' spiritual things. God is much more quiet and I have learned his voice, I have learned to simply be obediant and wait on Him at times, and at other times I know He is speaking to me but it isn't an audible voice anymore...it is more like confirmations...a thought placed in my mind and then confirmed with a word from a friend, or something like that.

One thing I often did back then was claim the Blood of Jesus over myself and my property, family, children. When you are confused Claim the Blood of Jesus. Say it out loud. And you will know God is there with you.

Thank you bro, I'll try that. I really appreciate you sharing that with me, I had many demonic experienced a couple of years ago and so I am sensitive to these kinds of things too. Never did it say anywhere in the Bible that fire came from the foot upward. Never did it say that your heart would beat 1000x faster and harder when someone was praying over you. After I posted this question I was on youtube.. and I dont even know how I got to this video but it said a LOT of great things to help me with this discernment issue. I recommend you go check it out.. search for a video called "Witches Unaware: Strange Fire (Part II)"

I can't post the link because of WB forum rules but I HIGHLY recommend you check it out. I belive you will agree with it 100%.. and if not maybe you can tell me why.. but there is nothing bad about that video it was right on.

[Blien]

Blien...some people tend to hyper-ventilate with emotion and get deprived of oxygen, light-headed and imagine things.

When I was baptised in the Holy Spirit, I heard G-d speak directly to me, It felt like fire from the top of my head to my toes, tongues poured out and so did masses of praise and ecstatic rejoicing....and I wasn't even actively seeking for any of this.

I think if you look for G-d in all of it, and not for experiences, keep your heart pure, desire holiness, and don't get too intense, then G-d will give you the desires of your heart...read Acts and let faith arise. Enjoy and be remarkably blessed. Botz.

Thanks Botz, when you experienced this fire, where did it start? From you head or you toes? Or was it just sudden and all consuming?

I was not seeking any experience I believe.. maybe I was, but to myself I believe I was not. I really was zealous for G-d and everyone there was speaking in tongues so I wanted it too. As I did for many years. Also I saw the preacher Derek Prince teach that tongues is the sign of the "seal" of the Holy Spirit.. and I belived him.

So.. I just want to be 100% filled with the Holy Spirit. It frustrates me that I cannot live a Holy Life to the up most when I know I can do it. I just want to be closer to G-d. That's all.

Edit: by the way I should mention. I'm not a crying man.. I haven't cried in probably over 10 years.. even if I wanted to. It's just impossible for me.

[spiritman]

Blien...some people tend to hyper-ventilate with emotion and get deprived of oxygen, light-headed and imagine things.

When I was baptised in the Holy Spirit, I heard G-d speak directly to me, It felt like fire from the top of my head to my toes, tongues poured out and so did masses of praise and ecstatic rejoicing....and I wasn't even actively seeking for any of this.

I think if you look for G-d in all of it, and not for experiences, keep your heart pure, desire holiness, and don't get too intense, then G-d will give you the desires of your heart...read Acts and let faith arise. Enjoy and be remarkably blessed. Botz.

I agree with botz; some chruches emphesize experiences, so much that they actually disobey scripture. I went to a church many years ago, where you had almost everyone talking in tongues at the same time; it was like expected, or you weren't a Christian. Even though the scripture says that the gift of tongues is one of the signs of a believer. Paul also goes into explaining that everything has it's place. Tongues edifies oneself to God, I do it mostly in private..

He also stresses the fact that we should pray for interpretion of tongues, and prophecy over tongues, because this edifies the entire church.

1 Cor 14:4-5 (KJV)

4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

5 that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

[Blien]

Blien...some people tend to hyper-ventilate with emotion and get deprived of oxygen, light-headed and imagine things.

When I was baptised in the Holy Spirit, I heard G-d speak directly to me, It felt like fire from the top of my head to my toes, tongues poured out and so did masses of praise and ecstatic rejoicing....and I wasn't even actively seeking for any of this.

I think if you look for G-d in all of it, and not for experiences, keep your heart pure, desire holiness, and don't get too intense, then G-d will give you the desires of your heart...read Acts and let faith arise. Enjoy and be remarkably blessed. Botz.

I agree with botz; some chruches emphesize experiences, so much that they actually disobey scripture. I went to a church many years ago, where you had almost everyone talking in tongues at the same time; it was like expected, or you weren't a Christian. Even though the scripture says that the gift of tongues is one of the signs of a believer. Paul also goes into explaining that everything has it's place. Tongues edifies oneself to God, and paul instructs us to do it mostly in private.

He also stresses the fact that we should pray for interpretion of tongues, and prophecy over tongues, because this edifies the entire church.

1 Cor 14:4-5 (KJV)

4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

5 that ye all spake with </a>tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with <a href="http://" target="_blank">tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

Amen, I totally Agree.. it was so weird to hear everyone speaking tongues at the same time. It was the first time I've ever seen such a thing. And I read that chapter oddly enough when I got home.. so I was in amaze me that they were not following the word. So who is the final authority there I dont know... or maybe they did not know about this part in the Bible??? I dont know either.\

You know what.. the funny thing is. After I left that meeting feeling so great and as if I was in Heaven or something, the next day I feel ill. There was no cause, no reason why I should have been sick but I was. The very next day after that I am feeling totally healthy... so there was something weird about that whole experiance.

[spiritman]

Yea I don't mean to sound mean or anything about any perticular denomnation, but some pentencostal churches stress this. but here's the thing some of them don't read the scripture for themselves and depend to much on the preacher. That's what happened to me. But once I finally begin the reading the scripture for myself, and quit taking the preachers word for everything, I left that church.

[spiritman]

However to talk about what is normally termed (slain in the spirit) I had that happen just once, and never again. I saw myself floating in the clouds, and felt very light, to the point where I looked like those Nestea Ice tea commericals that were on in the 70's, remember those, where the people are falling backwards with a glass of tea in their hand. I was actually falling, and was caught by someone standing behind me.

[spiritman]

I don't seek those kind of experiences anymore. Everyone once in a while, when the Holy Spirit cuddles with me ( that's what I call it) I feel him all around me like a big warm blanket, and sometimes the experience is over whelming but wonderful.