9/11 Commission Report Confirms Farenheit facts

[AmariYah]

As usual everyone has gotten way off topic!

This was just a little tid-bit proving that many of the facts brought up in the movie Farneheit 9/11 were in fact verified by the 9/11 comission.

And second you people have missed some very important points in your little petty debates;

(Keeping in mind that I do not support Kerry and am not a Democrat!)

You critisize Kerry as a way of trying to take the spot light of your idol king Bush. Did it even occur to you that John Kerry did not have any authority to do anything on his own/ whereas Pres. Bush the Commander in Chief did!

The main point which many of you don't seem to understand is this;

There is a National protocol which is already in place when there are any planes which go off course or are even suspected of being hijacked. The Air Force does not have to call the President to ask if they should scramble jets to intercept planes which are not responding to communications! In fact this very thing has happend several times where for one reason or another planes are either off course and or not responding/ and because of the prearranged plans and protocol Air Force fighters are immediately scrambled. (FYI it takes less than 7 minutes to scramble fighter jets in an emergency!) The very fact that no fighter jets were scrambled tells us conclusively that they did not follow the normal protocol and SOMEONE ordered those fighter planes to remain on the ground. They do not immediately go up and shoot someone down- what they do is have one fighter come into position on each side of the plane in question and escort it down out of the air. When and if the plane either does not respond or tries to break out of the escort- and then only if there is significant danger, (such as a course towards a populated area or public building...) then the fighter jets would be ordered to shoot down the non-compliant target. But as pointed out- none of this happened even though this is the standard protocol in these situations which means beyond the shadow of a doubt that someone with authority did in fact order these Air Force pilot's to remain grounded! Who gave that order & Why? That my friends is the question... Although this is still way off the topic of this thread!

Please click the following link for detailed verification of the above assertions!

http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm

[Guest yod]

Guys...the military had this thing under as much control as anyone can when something this unprecedented in world history happened. It's easy in hindsight to forget that this was something very unique and there was no playbook to go by.

I would guess that the guy who whispered in GW's ear was saying, "Mr President, the country is under attack and we have to assume that there might be a plan for your life. We need get you to a military base and away from these kids before an attack comes."

[AmariYah]

Guys...the military had this thing under as much control as anyone can when something this unprecedented in world history happened. It's easy in hindsight to forget that this was something very unique and there was no playbook to go by.

First of all Yod, that is a totally erroneous assumption! Our own government had not only received advanced warning of possible terrorsits acts using commercial jet's, but had actaully done some simulation tests. Condaleeza Rice knowinly lied about not having any idea that someone could make an attack using commercial jets. And if the Military were simply allowed to follow set protocol then they would have had each and every hijacked plane surrounded by at least 2 escort fighter jets each... BUT SOMEONE ORDERED THEM TO ABANDON NORMAL PROTOCOL AND STAY ON THE GROUND. This response fits pretty well the the official response saying "duh- we just weren't ready- We didn't know what to do- Duh!?"- which is a flat out lie. If spending untold billions of dollars produces idiots who don't know what's happening and who aren't prepared then we are certainly wasting an incredible amount of money! However we do have the intelligence to handle this kind of situation and more- and The FBI & the CIA were not taken completely by surprise by the events that transpired on 9/11- That is merely a lame cover story for the very gullible brain-washed public. (see the link on my previous post- )

I would guess that the guy who whispered in GW's ear was saying, "Mr President, the country is under attack and we have to assume that there might be a plan for your life. We need get you to a military base and away from these kids before an attack comes."

If your assumption is correct, then Bush's delay seems even more rediculous. He would have wanted to move immediately because anyone could know his exact location at that very moment! Particularly rediculous is the pathetic story that Goergie didn't want to frighten the children. Please! The school children could have simply been told that the Pres. had to leave on important business- plain and simple! And it wasn't just 7 minutes people... Pres. Bush was told about the first plane hitting the WTC BEFORE HE EVEN WENT INTO THE CLASSROOM!

[ted]

Bush is the bad guy because he was the president and it was HIS responsibility. Either Bush knew about it and didn't stop it or he didn't act fast enough. Either way he shouldn't be in office. Not that changes anything mind you.

In other threads, you say that the Gov't is too big and that citizens should defend themselves and that Gov't shouldn't be taking our rights away just to make us safe, but here you say that the President is almost solely responsible for protecting us. (judging by your caps of HIS)

So, which is it? Does the Gov't have responsibilty of protection? If so, what branch? Executive? Legislative? Judicial? the Military?

In this scenario, Bush was responsible so kick him out, right?

After Bush is gone, who does the responsibility fall to?

I'll assume you have researched this and have determined that Ron Paul would have left the classroom in, what, 3.7 minutes?

I'm confused.

t.