Tithing is unscriptural in the New Covenant

[Guest shadow2b]

-To me, biblical tithing, is only the recognition that we should help support those who are doing the work of the Lord....and we should give to further His kingdom in other ways also.

-I BELIEVE IN "GIVING" to support the "Church"the work of the ministry---support evangelists--ANYTHING & ANYONE working for GOD'S KINGDOM must be

supported....That is "Those WE know that are working for GOD---not the liars--thieves--or herey-tickks{blood-suckers--that drain the very life's blood of widows}-

ALL I have ever said is that "DEMANDING A 10% "TITHE" of the flocks $MONEY$ is WRONG---IT IS "EXTORTION" by the "Priests"-----yet I have heard with my very-own-lill-ole EARS {IF YOU DON'T KEEP ALL OF GOD'S LAWS--INCLUDING THE LAW OF "TITHING" YOU ARE GOING TO HELL}!!!-above quote made BY a High-Profile Pastor of a High-Profile Church in Florida---who appears weekly on the network of "GREED-UNLIMITED"--{tbn}

[Guest dove2]

AmariYah

From what I have read you have answered every question as I would have.

Malachi is talking to the priests and not the people. The priests were keeping the best for themselves and offering blind, lame and sick animals to God. God is telling the priests that they have stolen from Him and have caused the whole nation to sin because of their sin. God is telling the priests to take the tithe into the storehouse. Only the priests could take the tithe into the storehouse.

Tithe as Abraham did: In order to tithe as Abraham did we would have to have war and give God 10% of the bounty of war. Abraham was very rich but he did not give of his wealth, he gave of the bounty of war one time. That leaves out tithing the way Abraham did. The only way we can give to God as Abraham gave would be to wage war against Satan to win souls for God.

If we have money to go out to eat rather than eat at home and God wants us to give that money to someone else and we don't then we are not doing as God wants and being cheerful givers. We are pleasing ourselves and not God.

We are to give as God has put on our heart and to whom God has put on our heart. We are to give cheerfully. If we give an un-required 10% and our family has to do without food, then we are giving wrongly. If we only have twenty cents and can only give a penny then we have done as the Lord wants. We have determined in our heart what to give and what we can give cheerfully.

I don't know of anyone that can give 10% cheerfully if their children have to go without food or be naked. We are to give to those of our house and not let them do without. That does not mean if our child wants a Barbie doll because so and so has one that we should not give to God to buy our child a toy, etc. If our child or whoever needs a pair of shoes and the soles of their shoes are worn out then we are to buy them shoes as from God.

To always give God's money to a church is not right either. Is your brother or sister in need? I am talking siblings and our siblings in the Lord or a sinner in need who is not yet our brother or sister. If we give to unsaved persons how do we know that God won't touch their heart? God loves everyone the same and we would do well to remember that. If God tells us to give to an unsaved person there is a reason He wants us to do so.

Yes, I feel honored to be able to give to God what ever He wants and when He wants it. It doesn't always have to be money. If a person has no money (like people in a nursing home) then they can give of themselves. They can give an act of kindness or make a little gift for someone if they are able. If they can give nothing God is not going to send them to hell or accuse them of robbing from Him. There are many things we can give as giving to the Lord and that don

[Guest dove2]

Quote from Yod:

But here is a quote from Jesus on the subject from Matthew 23:23

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others

  You seem to be implying with your emphasis- that because Jesus said of Pharisees who were under the Old Covenant Law of Moses, "without neglecting the others"-  that we who have a new and better Covenant should also practice tithing.  Is that the point you were trying to make?  Just trying to clarify here...?

Jesus had to fulfill the law while on earth. He had to cross every tittle and dot every I. At the time Jesus said this He was living under the law. He could not say less because He had not died on the cross to set us free from legalism or the law, yet. And too, the people were being hypocrites because they were not showing mercy.

Also, Jesus knew that the tithe was not instated by tithing mint, dill and cummin. Those items were added later by priests after the tithe had been established according to Unger's Dictionary.