Daniel 9:24-27 Part II

[wordsower]

Zion---

You totally misunderstand Dad Ernie and you speak out of ignorance and you are quite rude in the meantime.

.....and that's all I have to say about that. :x:

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Wordsower,

Thank you for your defense, it delights me that whether you agree with me or not, at least you know my heart.

Blessing and thanks again,

Dad Ernie

[Guest zionprophet]

Zion---

You totally misunderstand Dad Ernie and you speak out of ignorance and you are quite rude in the meantime.

Edited August 18, 2004 by zionprophet

[Guest yod]

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you are saying that this "whole house of Israel" is brought back AFTER Messiah comes, right?

I AGREE!!!!

You do?

I understood that the bones represented the Jewish people coming back to the nation after the holocaust.

that is the house of Judah being brought back. In Judah there were 2 major tribes of Judah and Benjamin. There were Levites all over both houses. Certainly there were "some" of every tribe living in Judah just as there were "some" of the southern kingdom living in the north.

But here "The house of Israel" is referring only to the northern 10 tribes who disappeared into Assyria (in case you missed that in my last explanation)

Yes, DE, there is a representation of all the tribes in Israel if you ask the Orthodox. They see this as having been fulfilled already.

But how will there be 12,000 every EVERY tribe in the land before His coming in Revelation if He doesn't bring them back before He comes?

think it through....

btw....Zion....Ernie is cool. Don't let yourself get offended so easily. He's a harmless little furball and we are engaged to be married.

(inside joke)

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Yod,

btw....Zion....Ernie is cool. Don't let yourself get offended so easily. He's a harmless little furball and we are engaged to be married.

Does that mean you accept? I am delighted, what's your address so I can get my engagement ring in the mail to you? BTW, all I could find was a studded nose ring, will that be okay?

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

P.S. The 12,000 from every tribe does not mean that they all have to be in the land of Israel.

[Guest zionprophet]

btw....Zion....Ernie is cool. Don't let yourself get offended so easily. He's a harmless little furball and we are engaged to be married.

Edited August 19, 2004 by zionprophet

[wordsower]

Zionprophet,

I am coming to the sad conclusion that what you REALLY mean is that unless we agree with everything YOU say, we have no right to speak. It appears that you have granted yourselves this 'liberty' that you can say what you want, but we should keep our beliefs and opinions to ourselves.

That is just not true. Dad Ernie and I have had a lot of disagreements. If you will notice our member #'s, we've been on here a LONG time. Great thing about it is we don't have to agree on everything. Even if Dad posts something that I totally disagree with I'm gonna pray about it and ask God what He has to say about it and study it out before I refute it. I know he is a brother in Christ and I certainly don't know it all so I will check it out.

When we figure we know it all we close ourselves up to any revelation. I know because I did it for 27 years. I was a Sabbatarian too, if you get a chance, read my testimony. No one could have told me any different, so I understand that mindset. God had to show me.

I have no issue with you, we are here to edify eachother and learn and if I offended you, I apologize, but I did think you were a little "rude" just a little bro! Hey, I can be rude too! Sometimes it's hard to read someone's personality on a typed screen.

Maybe we can start over, whatayasay??

[wordsower]

makes sense to me, whatayasay Dad?

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings JTarter,

I see that in some respects we might agree, but in others not!

The main problem with your scenario is that you do not complete the Daniel "covenant" in that:

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

You leave ALL Israel unreconciled and unrighteous, and this is what Romans 9-11 is all about.

You may want to consider these verses:

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Acts 1:6-7 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

The disciples were undoubtedly thinking then of the current day rulership of the Romans of Israel, but Jesus answered honestly and prophetically. He did NOT deny that the Kingdom would be "restored to them", and in Romans 11 we are told that "when the fulness of the gentiles be come in (to the Kingdom of God), then Israel's heart will once again be turned to God and they too will reach THEIR fulness into the Kingdom. However, it shall not be like the covenant that was made with their Fathers, but it shall be under the New Covenant ALONG WITH THE GENTILES. See Eph 1-3.

The "interjection" or the "gap" between the first half and the last half of Daniel's 70th week, is to allow time for the gentiles to come into the Kingdom of God.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie