Melchizedek

[Guest Called]

Please don`t leave us hanging tell us what you are confused about.

I for one am confused about what Servinghim is asserting in the quote that I quoted above....

Yes, that too.

[Orr v'emet]

Everyone left...oh well, the confusion must linger me thinks....

[Guest power2u]

Question: "Who was Melchizedek?"

Answer: Melchizedek, whose name means

[Guest Called]

Thank you Power. That helped! I am interested now in hearing ServingHim's answer.

[ServingHim]

And Mel-chiz'edek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was priest of God Most High. Gen 14:18

The LORD has sworn

and will not change his mind,

"You are a priest for ever

after the order of Melchiz'edek." Psalms 110:4

6 as he says also in another place,

"Thou art a priest for ever,

after the order of Melchiz'edek."

7 In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard for his godly fear. 8 Although he was a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered; 9 and being made perfect he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him, 10 being designated by God a high priest after the order of Melchiz'edek. Heb 5:6-10

where Jesus has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest for ever after the order of Melchiz'edek. Heb 6:20

1 For this Melchiz'edek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him; 2 and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace. 3 He is without father or mother or genealogy, and has neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest for ever. Heb 7:1-3

For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is great among the nations, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure offering; for my name is great among the nations, says the LORD of hosts. Mal 1:11 (RSV)

23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me." 25 In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me." 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. 1 Cor 11:23-26

Every minute of every day, all over the world, the Catholic Church celebrates the sacrifice of the Mass, and offers incense and a 'Pure Offering', the Holy Eucharist, the 'True Presence' of Jesus Christ to the Name of GOD. How many other Churches comply with this command from the Lord Almighty? How many other Churches can comply at all?

"Then Melchisedek, the King of Salem, brought out bread and wine; for he was a priest of the most high GOD." Gen 14:18

This is a clear prefigurement of Jesus Christ as King and Priest, and the offering of Holy Communion in the Church.

"And when thy days shall be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house to my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever." 2 Sam 7:12-13 ... These verses refer to the 'seed of David', who is Jesus Christ. The 'house' is a place of worship. His 'Kingdom' is the everlasting Church.

Eph 3:20-21, He who is able to accomplish all things, will be Glorified in his Church, and in Jesus Christ down through 'ALL THE AGES OF TIME WITHOUT END'. I would say this guarantees the perpetuality of the Church which Jesus Christ founded.

[GoodSamaritan]

Well put, ServingHim. This Melchizedek priesthood is the key to the NT sacrfice, IMO. Here's a couple of more resources regarding this rarely mentioned but very important character:

http://www.chnetwork.org/journals/eucharist/eucharist_9.htm

http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.a...64&art_id=17549

GS

[Guest power2u]

I love the discussion.

[Guest sinner2saint]

Melchizedek is he deity or human?

Adam is a 'type' of Christ, as is Melchizedek, Moses, and King David. :il:

[Guest sinner2saint]

Melchizedek is he deity or human?

It is my understanding that the only diety to ever walk on this earth as a man was Jesus Christ.

I am not suggesting that you believe otherwise. I realize you are just asking a question for the purpose of discussion. That's fine. After all, that's what we do on a discussion board; we discuss things.

But to call Melchizedek, an Apostle, or anyone else is in Scripture (other than Jesus) diety, is idolatry. If such a person is considered deity, this means they can be prayed to and worshiped as God. This, of course, is nothing new.

In Acts 14:8-18, we see Paul and Barnabas preaching the gospel in the city of Lystra.

v. 8-15 "In Lystra there sat a man crippled in his feet, who was lame from birth and had never walked. He listened to Paul as he was speaking. Paul looked directly at him, saw that he had faith to be healed and called out, 'Stand up on your feet!" At that, the man jumped up and began to walk. When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, 'The gods have come down to us in human form!' Barnabas they called Zeus, and Paul they called Hermes because he was the cheif speaker. The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city, brought bulls and wreaths to the city gates because he and the crowd wanted to offer sacrifices to them. But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, they tore their clothes and rushed out into the crowd, shouting: 'Men, why are you doing this? We too are only men, human like you.'"

v. 18- "Even with these words, they had difficulty keeping the crowd from sacrificing to them."

Paul and Barnabas quickly rebuked the crowd for calling them deity.

Likewise, when Peter went to the house of Cornelius (Acts 10:23-26), he had a similar experience (sort of).

"As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. But Peter made him get up. 'Stand up,' he said, 'I am only a man myself."

Unfortunately, there are still those today who would bow at the feet of Peter, Melchizedek, or do I dare say, Mary.

But, I guess there will always be those who would worship "created things" rather than the Creator, who is forever praised.

Edited August 20, 2004 by sinner2saint

[ServingHim]

Melchizedek is he deity or human?

It is my understanding that the only diety to ever walk on this earth as a man was Jesus Christ.

I am not suggesting that you believe otherwise. I realize you are just asking a question for the purpose of discussion. That's fine. After all, that's what we do on a discussion board; we discuss things.

But to call Melchizedek, an Apostle, or anyone else is in Scripture (other than Jesus) diety, is idolatry.

No, I don't think that Melchizedek is 'God' ... nor are Moses, David, et al...I know you didn't intend on putting words into my mouth.

If such a person is considered deity, this means they can be prayed to and worshiped as God.  This, of course, is nothing new.

again, they no one said that Melchizadek is 'God'...nor are any of the others mentioned.

In Acts 14:8-18, we see Paul and Barnabas preaching the gospel in the city of Lystra. 

v. 8-15  "In Lystra there sat a man crippled in his feet, who was lame from birth and had  never walked.  He listened to Paul as he was speaking.  Paul looked directly at him, saw that he had faith to be healed and called out, 'Stand up on your feet!"  At that, the man jumped up and began to walk.  When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, 'The gods have come down to us in human form!' Barnabas they called Zeus, and Paul they called Hermes because he was the cheif speaker.  The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city, brought bulls and wreaths to the city gates because he and the crowd wanted to offer sacrifices to them.  But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, they tore their clothes and rushed out into the crowd, shouting:  'Men, why are you doing this?  We too are only men, human like you.'"

v. 18-  "Even with these words, they had difficulty keeping the crowd from sacrificing to them."

Paul and Barnabas quickly rebuked the crowd for calling them deity.

Absolutely!

Unfortunately, there are still those today who would bow at the feet of Peter, Melchizedek, or do I dare say, Mary.

really...I've never heard of anyone bowing down to Peter ... or Melchizedek ... and for those who 'worship' Mary, well, they are wrong...BUT if they are paying great honor to her, then I see no problem with that. It's hard to 'judge' what is in another person's heart, so to say that one considers Mary or any of the others deity would be hard to recognize unless of course that person actually claims that they believe that Mary (or any of the others) is indeed God, and frankly, I've never ever heard such a thing...

But, I guess there will always be those who would worship "created things" rather than the Creator, who is forever praised.

I'm sure so...like worshipping one's career, self-worth, money, et al ... for there are many 'created things' that people put before God our Creator... but how amazing and glorious it is that our God still loves us and longingly desires us to return to Him. :il: