Trinity

[Trinity]

No it says that Jesus is "LIVING" Deity.

[ksalzar]

(In a sweet voice) Can you please Prove me wrong?

Jesus was Called Deity. telling me about the word fully doesn't mean anything in that verse. im talking about the Word "Deity" which means God, and Jesus was called Deity.

It said the deity dwells in him. It did not say Jesus is deity, it speaks of deity filling Jesus up; as something fills up a container. This does not lend weight to the understanding that deity is Jesus essence or nature.

Furthermore we also partake of the divine nature, again I ask could you answer this question, will we then be God also if the divine nature is in us?

[ksalzar]

ksalzar:

WITHOUT BLEMISH=WITHOUT SIN. Do not confuse your lack of understanding with the truth. Only God, sir, is without sin. Simple-a two year old can understand this. I can do nothing about your lackof spiritual understanding.

In Christ,

John W

Only God is without sin, this is your claim.

What about children who die during birth, are they without sin? They have not sinned yet.

What about Adam before the fall, he was without sin. He was not God.

[Trinity]

9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

but after that verse it says 10 and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

Only Deity can be head over all authority and POWER.

[Trinity]

10 and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

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And you are complete in Christ who is head over everything in Time and space.

Heaven and Earth, and All Rulers.

[ksalzar]

9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

but after that verse it says 10 and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

Only Deity can be head over all authority and POWER.

The thing is Christ is not head over all rule and authority, there is one who is excepted from this statement. That is God.

[Trinity]

Colossians 2:10

and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

It says Jesus is head over every power and authority. are you saying this verse is a lie?

[ksalzar]

Colossians 2:10

and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

It says Jesus is head over every power and authority. are you saying the bible is wrong?

No sir, colossians is limited by its context. For an explicit decleration of the statement I just made have a look at what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:

1 Corinthians 15:27

27 For "God has put all things in subjection under his feet." But when it says, "all things are put in subjection," it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him.

28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

When it says all things are put in subjection it is talking of what it outlined previously in verse 24, namely "every rule and every authoriy and power."

God is excepted and Jesus Christ will be subjected to God so that God is all in all. You are right, there is only one who is head over everything, that is God. This is who puts things in subjection under Christ's feet, and who is excepted from the statement of all things being subject to Christ.

[jmwhalen]

ksalzar:

WITHOUT BLEMISH=WITHOUT SIN.  Do not confuse your lack of understanding with the truth.  Only God, sir, is without sin.  Simple-a two year old can understand this. I can do nothing about your lackof spiritual understanding.

In Christ,

John W

Only God is without sin, this is your claim.

What about children who die during birth, are they without sin? They have not sinned yet.

What about Adam before the fall, he was without sin. He was not God.

You show your lack of understanding of what sin is, and you refuse to understand that the LORD God was showing you "through a type" that the redeemer must be God=WITHOUT BLEMISH.

Sin is not wrong doing, it is wrong being. Adam was innocent, but He was He did not have the rigtheousness of God. Children, in your example here, are considered innocent, having no knowledge of the difference between good and evil(nor did Adam and Eve prior to the fall). I showed you the requirements of the redeemer after the fall-you can deny it, but your denial in no way does affects the truth.

You ask "What about" hypos, showing that you do not believe God is just as Genesis 18:25 says. Forget about the "hypos", and hear the Lord Jesus Christ's own testimony that He was God:

"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM(emphasis mine)". Jn. 8:58

"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you". Ex. 3:14

No "spin" here, sir. The Lord Jesus Christ, in no uncertain terms, in "5th grade English", says He is God. Any Jew who heard this knew exactly what He was claiming. If you say He did not claim He was God, you are a liar. This is not an accusation, but the truth. The truth only hurts when you do not tell it.

The clear testimony of testimony is that Jesus Christ is God-you will someday, as will everone, either by force or voluntarily, acknowledge this, all to the glory of God the Father. This is the meaning of Lord in Philippians 2:11-it is quoting Is. 45:21-23 in reference to LORD=God, and Romans 14:11.

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM(emphasis mine) he, ye shall die in your sins." Jn. 8:24

I provide the following to edify:

"Columbo: the Case of the Missing Believer"(or, subtitle- "Who Wrote this Book?"(The Holy Bible))

Submitted by John M. Whalen

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Your a whalen:

Thank you, wish I was that clear and concise in my thoughts. God Bless. Bill.