Rick-Parker Posted September 7, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.89 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted September 7, 2010 All highlights are mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted September 7, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2010 A fascinating read - an new way to interpret something that we thought was old yet not old at all just correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted September 8, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2010 This is how I see it, in a nutshell, as posted in your other thread. Let look not only at 2 Thessalonians, but other scripture as well. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 The Comfort of Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Mind1Spirit Posted September 8, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 110 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/29/1961 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Well done, One Light. We are indeed gathered to the Lord at the last trumpet blast. After the son of perdition sets himself up as God. As far as being kept from the tribulation goes this is easy to figure out. For those who have came to the truth, God will not send strong dillusion. In battle, with hail stones, did God not kill more of the enemy than the Israelite army? I reckon when He aims at somthin' He don't miss. Was not Israel in Egypt, and none of the plagues fell on them? And as far as Israel and Gentiles go, it is the children of the promise that count for the seed. The promise is Christ, and all those who believe in Him, Israelite and Gentile alike, are now counted for the seed. As long as they believe that God sent Jesus, that He was crucified and that after three days God raised Him from the dead. All of these are God's Israel, Christ's body, or church if you will. Let no man deceive you, we will be gathered to Christ one time at the last trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted September 8, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.89 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 This is it in a nutshell. There are more scriptures that we can look at and discuss, but this is a rough outline of the timing. What do you see? I see that you are going to believe whatever you, along with others, believe that the Scriptures leads you. I happen to disagree with your beliefs, as do others, and I stand firm upon the Scriptures which lead me to my beliefs. I'm not here to argue with you, and discussion with you is a waste of my time because no matter what Scriptures I post in support, you post Scripture that you believe support your belief. You even post the same Scripture as I do and claim it to mean something completely different than what I (or the author in these last 2 cases) understand them to mean. Neither of us is going to change. We will just have to agree to disagree. However, you should note that I will not stop posting what I feel is important to our community just because you disagree. You and others can claim and insinuate that I am unwilling or unable to defend my positions if you like. I disagree and have defended Scripture repeatedly. If you won't accept this defense, so be it. Still, I look forward to participate with you in others areas of the forum. Be blessed. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted September 9, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2010 This is it in a nutshell. There are more scriptures that we can look at and discuss, but this is a rough outline of the timing. What do you see? I see that you are going to believe whatever you, along with others, believe that the Scriptures leads you. I happen to disagree with your beliefs, as do others, and I stand firm upon the Scriptures which lead me to my beliefs. I'm not here to argue with you, and discussion with you is a waste of my time because no matter what Scriptures I post in support, you post Scripture that you believe support your belief. You even post the same Scripture as I do and claim it to mean something completely different than what I (or the author in these last 2 cases) understand them to mean. Neither of us is going to change. We will just have to agree to disagree. However, you should note that I will not stop posting what I feel is important to our community just because you disagree. You and others can claim and insinuate that I am unwilling or unable to defend my positions if you like. I disagree and have defended Scripture repeatedly. If you won't accept this defense, so be it. Still, I look forward to participate with you in others areas of the forum. Be blessed. Rick Blessings Rick! Do you believe there is only one truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Amen! Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted September 11, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.89 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 Blessings Rick! Do you believe there is only one truth? Yep. But there might be more than one understanding of that truth. With issues like this, both can't be right; yet each believe that what they believe is the correct interpretation and firmly grounded in Scripture. Neither group will be moved from their position until the time has come and the Lord explains it to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollinTHUNDER Posted December 10, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,986 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 433 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/23/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi everyone, Glad to see you all have agreed to disagree without ruffling too many feathers. I haven't posted in ages it seems, but it's time to ease back into the water. I believe the OP is correct that there is no seven year tribulation. However, most of the ones that see this seem to believe that the tribulation is 3 1/2 years in duration instead. We don't know that to be true either. The tribulation of those days is an undetermined amount of time, that Jesus will cut short, or at least interrupt. No one knows the day or hour. There, I have now gotten my feet wet, and I must say: it feels pretty good. Okay, everybody can jump back in now. The water is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 10, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2010 Blessings Rick! Do you believe there is only one truth? Yep. But there might be more than one understanding of that truth. With issues like this, both can't be right; yet each believe that what they believe is the correct interpretation and firmly grounded in Scripture. Neither group will be moved from their position until the time has come and the Lord explains it to us. Do you believe that God will actually do what we read in Revelation, the seven seals, seven trumpets and seven bowls? If so, when do you believe they will come about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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