Virgin Mary--Whose Mother is She?

[munari]

Very well said joe. I think you said it much better than I did. I think I was staying too technical in my explanations, but you cut right to the point and the heart of the matter.

[Guest racer]

munari and joe,

I'm trying so hard not to get frustrated because RCs, and apparently former RCs :sarcasm: , are wont to read so much more into what's said, not only in Scripture but by other people also.

Nobody is condemning Mary here.

[Guest racer]

joe,

As a former Catholic, I must say that I completely agree that Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God incarnate then hence the mother of God.

Hence, applying that logic, Mary is also the Mother of the Holy Spirit.

Tell me when you are talking specifically about Jesus, do you call Him Jesus?  And when talking specifically about God, do you call Him God?  And when talking about the Holy Spirit to you say Holy Spirit? :inlove:

[wordsower]

Munari, since you like to post articles, I found this one interesting:

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Do You Know Mary?

Carl Knott

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I wonder, do you know the Mary of Mary

[munari]

I don't have a problem with articles, you can post them on here whenever. However, that article is a good example of not understanding Catholic doctrine. I've already addressed most of those issues that the author incorrectly understands and won't do so again here, unless someone would like to specify a topic for me to clarify.

[wordsower]

There's no way you read the article that fast.  Seems to me your mind is made up and no amount of scripture can persuade you otherwise.  

[Guest Shilo]

Very Good Post.... :thumb:  

[Guest racer]

munari,

Which do you think is the most dangerous mistake in regards to our salvation--That we grossly misunderstand Roman Catholicism, or you (a generalization of all RCs) totally misunderstand, disregard, or explain away Scriptures which dispute, disprove, or forbid certain Roman Catholic Doctrine?

I really feel that you are a devout Christian who reserves His worship for God and seeks to edify Him.  But, I think you have spent so many years in the Church with veneration of Mary and saints pounded in your head that you are being deceived in certain areas.  Please, don't get mad at me, I say this will good intention. :inlove:

[munari]

Word,

I did read the article. There were a couple spots where I recognized the argument and then skimmed the rest to see if it followed what I already knew of the argument... so maybe that's why I got through it so fast. You can't use scripture to change my mind because scripture supports the Catholic Church! As I've said before, all of these arguments can boil down to one topic, Authority.

Racer,

I'm not sure how to answer that... I don't think any of you are in danger of damnation (unless you are intentionally rejecting Catholicism AND you FULLY understand that it is the True Church, and that is something I would never try to determine) and I think that the Church is right in its interpretation and that I am also right as long as I understand it as the Church teaches.

[Guest racer]

munari,

and I think that the Church is right in its interpretation and that I am also right as long as I understand it as the Church teaches.

But, why do you believe that?