Saved and Judged?

[Big Steve]

"Also I believe that the verse quoted from Hebrews talks about intentional sin. That is knowing that it's wrong, thinking about it all and still doing it. I don't believe that anyone will lose their Salvation over it but they will have to answer for it at the Judgement Seat Of Christ."

Yours in Him

Mark

This was posted in the "once saved always saved thread" and it brought up another question for me.

I have read where those that are saved will still face judgement for their works. What is at stake during this judgement, since it's not your salvation?

[Guest LadyC]

guess you stumped us all with that question steve!

[BobTriez]

"Also I believe that the verse quoted from Hebrews talks about intentional sin. That is knowing that it's wrong, thinking about it all and still doing it. I don't believe that anyone will lose their Salvation over it but they will have to answer for it at the Judgement Seat Of Christ."

Yours in Him

Mark

This was posted in the "once saved always saved thread" and it brought up another question for me.

I have read where those that are saved will still face judgement for their works. What is at stake during this judgement, since it's not your salvation?

Hi Steve,

A believer's deeds are judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ (Romans 14:10-12). This judgment does not determine salvation, but rather is when believers must give an account of their lives to Christ. We should not look at the Judgment Seat of Christ as God judging our sins, but rather as God rewarding us for our lives. Yes, we will have to give an account of our lives. Part of this is surely answering for the sins we committed. However, I do not think that is going to be the focus of the Judgment Seat of Christ.

At the Judgment Seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). The things we will likely be judged on is how well we obeyed the Great Commission (Matt 28:18-20), how victorious we were over sin (Romans 6:1-4), how well we controlled our tongue (James 3:1-9), etc. The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5; 2 Timothy 4:8; James 1:12; 1 Peter 5:4; Revelation 2:10.

Hope that helped ? Feel free to speak up if you still don't understand ok ?

God bless,

Bob

[Guest Called]

Hi Steve,

A believer's deeds are judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ (Romans 14:10-12).  This judgment does not determine salvation, but rather is when believers must give an account of their lives to Christ.  We should not look at the Judgment Seat of Christ as God judging our sins, but rather as God rewarding us for our lives.  Yes, we will have to give an account of our lives.  Part of this is surely answering for the sins we committed.  However, I do not think that is going to be the focus of the Judgment Seat of Christ.

At the Judgment Seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5).  The things we will likely be judged on is how well we obeyed the Great Commission (Matt 28:18-20), how victorious we were over sin (Romans 6:1-4), how well we controlled our tongue (James 3:1-9), etc.  The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5).  The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5; 2 Timothy 4:8; James 1:12; 1 Peter 5:4; Revelation 2:10.

Hope that helped ? Feel free to speak up if you still don't understand ok ?

God bless,

Bob

Yeah Steve....what Bob said!

[pamjane]

i may be wrong, but this is what i've heard, and it makes sense and seems biblical. what's at stake are our "riches" in heaven, our crowns (a few verses below, you may want to look them up to check out the context). we receive crowns for different things on earth, like for making disciples, and for being persecuted. i never understood the point of having riches in heaven, because i knew that just being directly in God's presence would be enough. then, i read:

Revelation 4

9Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne, and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:

11"You are worthy, our Lord and God,

to receive glory and honor and power,

for you created all things,

and by your will they were created

and have their being."

when we get to heaven, we will be able to present our crowns and riches at Jesus's feet as an offering!

1 Thessalonians 2:19

For what is our hope, our joy, or the crown in which we will glory in the presence of our Lord Jesus when he comes? Is it not you?

1 Corinthians 9:25

Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.

2 Timothy 4:8

Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day

[Trinity]

I do not believe Christians will be judged. You see the reason why christians will not be judged is because all are sins where placed on Jesus, he took are penalty our judgement on sin. Romans 8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." Condemn means: "to declare to be reprehensible, wrong, or evil usually after weighing evidence and without reservation." We are not held responesable to the sins that we have done on earth. But there is no excape from sin, you still have to Obey God! because you may not be punished in heaven but you will be punished on earth. I believe God will take you home if you go into sin and do not come back to him, like a Parent takes a child home if they are bad.

It would be unjust for God to judge you for your sins because Jesus ALREADY paid the full penalty for those very sins, because if God judged you for those sins what was the point of Jesus dying for those sins?

Christians will indeed come before God's judgment seat (2 Cor 5.10). However, the Greek word for "judgment seat" in 2 Cor 5.10 is "bema" -- it is NOT the Great White Throne of judgment where unsaved people will be judged (Rev 20.11-15).

In Bible times, the "bema" was the name for the Judge's stand during marathon races. It was solely a place for bestowing REWARDS, and not punishment.

I hope this helps

[Big Steve]

At the Judgment Seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). The things we will likely be judged on is how well we obeyed the Great Commission (Matt 28:18-20), how victorious we were over sin (Romans 6:1-4), how well we controlled our tongue (James 3:1-9), etc. The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5; 2 Timothy 4:8; James 1:12; 1 Peter 5:4; Revelation 2:10.

Hope that helped ? Feel free to speak up if you still don't understand ok ?

God bless,

Bob

That is very helpful. I will read the scripture you quoted for a better understanding.

Based upon this receiving of crowns as reward, here's a question. Is there different "levels" or "standing" in Heaven. Meaning, say you have 10 crowns and I have 9, is there a difference in where we stand in the eyes of Jesus?

[Guest Called]

At the Judgment Seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5).  The things we will likely be judged on is how well we obeyed the Great Commission (Matt 28:18-20), how victorious we were over sin (Romans 6:1-4), how well we controlled our tongue (James 3:1-9), etc.  The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5).  The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5; 2 Timothy 4:8; James 1:12; 1 Peter 5:4; Revelation 2:10.

Hope that helped ? Feel free to speak up if you still don't understand ok ?

God bless,

Bob

That is very helpful. I will read the scripture you quoted for a better understanding.

Based upon this receiving of crowns as reward, here's a question. Is there different "levels" or "standing" in Heaven. Meaning, say you have 10 crowns and I have 9, is there a difference in where we stand in the eyes of Jesus?

It really doesn't matter Steve, we will just give our crowns back to Jesus. We will not be in competition in heaven. All that matters is Him, right?

You ask some really awesome questions!

[BobTriez]

That is very helpful. I will read the scripture you quoted for a better understanding.

Based upon this receiving of crowns as reward, here's a question. Is there different "levels" or "standing" in Heaven. Meaning, say you have 10 crowns and I have 9, is there a difference in where we stand in the eyes of Jesus?

I don't believe so Steve....and we will not be jealous of who has more crowns anyway.....'cuz it's not gonna be about us......it's all about Him!

And I intend on giving every crown back to Jesus anyway....I don't deserve them - He does :il: I do love Him so

God bless,

Bob

[Guest Calamity]

Rev. 4

[10] The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

[11] Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

The more crowns you get, the more you'll have to cast at Jesus' feet. He is the one worthy. I just hope I am not empty-handed!