Purgatory

[Guest Liv4Him2]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God

[Guest Kandi]

I am Roman Catholic but have attended and am quite comfortable with many other churches/religions. Just my own thought is that there is no Hell other than the absence of God and Heaven is the presence of God and I have experienced both right here on earth. I believe that we must, as sinners, be purified before we can be in the presence of God after death . And I believe Purgatory is where we are purified of any marks from sin before we get to be in God's presence. My thoughts. Below is what I found.

According to the Handbook for Today

[Guest Called]

The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

Well, then this is saying that the blood that Jesus said was not enough to cleanse us from all our sins. My Bible says differently...

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

We are made right in God's sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in this same way, no matter who we are or what we have done. Romans 3:22

God Bless,

Debbie

[Guest Liv4Him2]

Well, then this is saying that the blood that Jesus said was not enough to cleanse us from all our sins. My Bible says differently...

No, that is not what it is saying. Jesus blood does covers our sins.

Do you believe that once you accept Christ as your Savior, you never have to ask for forgiveness of sins that you commit after that?

I am covered by the Blood of Christ, but I am not prefectly Holy. Daily, I ask for God's Graces that I may grow in His holiness. I am human and I am still capable of sinning.

Let's suppose I have a disagreement with my spouse one morning. Rather than responding in the Love of Christ, I respond in the flesh by flying off the handle and say some things that are not Christ like. On the way to work I have a car accident and I am killed instantly and I have not asked God's forgiveness for the sins that I commited that morning. Am I perfectly Holy to stand in God's presence?

[Guest LCPGUY]

Well, then this is saying that the blood that Jesus said was not enough to cleanse us from all our sins. My Bible says differently...

No, that is not what it is saying. Jesus blood does covers our sins.

Do you believe that once you accept Christ as your Savior, you never have to ask for forgiveness of sins that you commit after that?

It is not necessary to ask for forgivness of sins since they have already been forgiven by the finished work of Christ on the cross. It is redundant. Why would someone ask for something they already have?

But... we do need to confess our sins and repent of them if we want to be in fellowship with the Lord.

[dgolvach]

Why do we need Jesus to save us if we can just spend the right amount of time in pergatory paying for our sins? Why the cross? Who pays for our sins, us or Jesus?

[BobTriez]

It is not necessary to ask for forgivness of sins since they have already been forgiven by the finished work of Christ on the cross. It is redundant. Why would someone ask for something they already have?

But... we do need to confess our sins and repent of them if we want to be in fellowship with the Lord.

You lost me John...............

As for purgatory, I've posted this before, but I post it again as it's a REALLY good article. Here's EVERYTHING the Bible says about purgatory.

Have a read....

Questions ?

God bless,

Bob

[Guest Liv4Him2]

As for purgatory, I've posted this before, but I post it again as it's a REALLY good article. Here's EVERYTHING the Bible says about purgatory.

"The word purgatory is nowhere found in Scripture." This is true, and yet it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation aren

[BobTriez]

"The word purgatory is nowhere found in Scripture." This is true, and yet it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation aren

[Guest Liv4Him2]

Weak argument...

The Trinity ( or concept of ) is Biblical, purgatory is not ( in any way, shape or form ).

Then how do you explain the verses that I posted.

Do you believe that when you die you will have your personal judgement? How can this be in Heaven if your filthy deeds will be judged, as the Bible clearly states that nothing unclean can be in Heaven?

Do you believe that when you die, you are automatically made Holy and so skip your personal judgement?

Edited September 17, 2004 by Liv4Him2