The Theory of Evolution.

[nebula]

When our universe initially expanded, it was space itself that expanded (and keeps expanding, btw). The material within space was taken along for the ride, so to speak. It was not an explosion.

In general Isaiah, D9 is not trying to redefine terms, but is nudging you into thinking about cosmology, and other sciences, in a slightly more precise manner.

All right - re-word the question/statement:

Way back billions of years ago, Everything that has ever existed already existed in the form of matter and or energy.

For some unknown reason, something caused everything to pull together, into basically a super singularity, (black hole) which compressed everything until, a massive expansion happened, creating all the building blocks of the universe we know know.

[Guest]

Be

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5

Blessed Beloved

For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. Isaiah 57:15

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Without getting nitpicky, you sort of have some basic cosmology things right. I think you're putting too much emphasis on the Earth being "just right." The "Goldilocks" zone (area where we think a habitable planet would be found) is not as exclusive as you imply.

Without

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 1:1-5

Getting Nitpicky

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Genesis 1:14-19

God Did It

He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding. Jeremiah 51:15

See?

He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Ecclesiastes 3:11

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What you didn't do is talk about evolution much at all in your post. As Nebula noted, the theory of evolution is a biological theory. To understand evolution, you need to know about things like natural selection, genetics, and so on...

To Understand The Truth Biologically Speaking

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:11-12

The Facts Of Life

And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. Genesis 1:20-22

Still Stand

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:24-25

And The Sins Of Many A Proud Man

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? Isaiah 29:16

Will Stand Too

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 2 Peter 3:5-6

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Simply Jesus

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 10:9-11

Or Not

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:35-36

Believe And Be Blessed Beloved

Love, Joe

[Believer112]

Must have been a really Big Bang to send all the galaxies to infinity.

[Guest]

But where do these rules come from? Why did they enable life to happen?

Where the rules come from is not something science can answer at the moment nor does it have much to do with evolution. You can believe that God is behind it all or not, either way it isn't part of science.

Yes

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. Psalms 115:16

Yes

For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. 1 Chronicles 16:26

Of Course

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? Psalms 8:3-4

Much Of Modern Science

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 2 Peter 3:5-6

Stands Condemned By The Father Of Laws

I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:1-4

But Then Again, You Knew That

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20

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Believe

That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. John 1:9-11

And Be Blessed Beloved

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth. John 1:12-14

Love, Joe

[nebula]

The point is how did no cause, no designer, no plan, no purpose give rise to life on this planet?

That is not what the science of evolution (in any field) is about. I was under the impression that OP was asking whether or not they understood the scientific theory/theories correctly, not to pose the question of how pure randomness gave rise to life.

Read between the lines, D-9.

But was it or was it not violent at the beginning?

So you're saying that if it is violent than it is an explosion?

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[nebula]

"By chance" sounds superficial.

Then what would you call it? What if Earth didn't have the Moon? What if the Moon was not the 1/4 size of Earth that it is? Would it be possible for us to have life as we know it? Does the Moon assist in keeping our planet spinning as it does or not?

I think you meant "craters"?

But how would the Earth's spin be without the Moon?

I'd say that the basic events were inevitable given the properties of the universe and where we are. Perhaps that is a bit too Newtonian for modern physics, but my point is that the OP, IMO, seems to be over-hyping the "chance" part creating a hyperbolic view of the standard science involved in these things.

"Inevitable"? Aye-aye-aye! You have more faith in naturalism than we have.

Yes, I meant craters. Don't quote me on this or anything, but I think the moon slows down our rotation, so without a moon we'd be spinning around faster.

OK. Would life be possible if the Earth were spinning that much faster? If we didn't have the tidal effects of the Moon? Etc.

[nebula]

I take issue with the fine-tuning connotation. For example, if you change a variable (lets say the distance to the Sun) you can change another variable (like the composition of the atmosphere) and life is still permissible.

Prove it!

Um, okay.... The distance to the Sun is usually so that you have the right temperature to sustain life, right? One thing that also influences temperature is the amount of green house gasses in the atmosphere. If there was no greenhouse gas the Earth's ocean would be frozen solid it would get so cold. So depending on how far away the planet is from the Sun, a certain range of greenhouse gasses will permit life to flourish.

The planet also has to be at the correct distance for water to exist in all three states.

And yes, there does have to be other factors. Amazing that a planet can have all the right factors.

Not to mention extremophiles have shown us that life is much more robust and adaptive than once thought.

On Earth! We still haven't found life outside of "the life zone".

Do you have faith we will find evidence of bacteria on Mars or Venus or another planet's moon?

[nebula]

Please compare Earth's magnetism with that of the other planets in the Solar System, and then explain how Earth is not unique.

Please compare Earth to Venus and Mars.

Not sure what that has to do with my statement, I didn't say Earth's magnetism wasn't unique, but the OP seemed generate the idea that it was pure chance that most of the heavy elements went to the bottom while the lighter elements concentrated at the surface, where there is a perfectly good natural explanation relating to density.

Mars and Venus have lower magnetic fields because they lack the necessary conditions to either have such a strong magnetic field or maintain such levels. Venus is thought to have once had about the same magnetic strength as Earth, but it couldn't maintain it as it couldn't stir the molten iron around its core for some reason. Again, I'm not sure what this has to do with my statement; all these things are explained via natural mechanisms just fine, and the fact that Mars and Venus has or had similar characteristics and the finding of extra-terrestrial planets makes it seem quite premature (or of antiquity) to proclaim Earth's uniqueness in the way that many creationists do.

It's unique that it has maintained the magnetism where the others have not.

It takes more than water to have life.

And until life is discovered on Mars, your claim here doesn't fly.

But where do these rules come from? Why did they enable life to happen?

Which claim? That many requirements for life are found in other planets? Or that there's more than one set of variables hospitable to life?

Where the rules come from is not something science can answer at the moment nor does it have much to do with evolution. You can believe that God is behind it all or not, either way it isn't part of science.

Why not? Science is about knowing, isn't it? Why is "cause" not a scientific concern?

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I'm not redefining terms, you asked in the OP if you had it right, I'm just trying to correct some of your statements and answer some of your questions. In modern cosmology the BB isn't considered an explosion but a rapid expansion of space. Your loss if you don't like modern physics, but that is what it says.

Many Many Many Years

I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. Isaiah 45:1

Before You Or I Took Our Latter-Day University Physics, God Nailed It

[Guest]

Most Christians see - God-caused vs. Remove-God. "Evolution" is the clumped term for "Remove-God".

So you can nit-picky all you want how it is expressed.

The point is how did no cause, no designer,

no plan, no purpose give rise to life

on this planet?

That is not what the science of evolution (in any field) is about.

I was under the impression that OP was asking whether or not they understood

the scientific theory/theories correctly, not to pose the question of how pure randomness gave rise to life.

Oh

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis 1:31

Come On Now

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Revelation 20:11

Dear One Seriously

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

This Evolution Dogma Is All About Dissing The Power Of The LORD Jesus Christ

Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? Isaiah 29:15-16

And About Mocking The Value Of His Holy Blood

But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:20-22

Shed For The Remission

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

Of Sin

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23

Shame

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.Mark 8:38

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Believe

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:9-10

And Be Blessed Beloved

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 10:11

Love, Joe