Isaiah 6:8 Posted April 1, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 426 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,633 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 222 Days Won: 13 Joined: 03/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1978 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Am I afraid to die? No. The process though . . . not so much. Me? How would I like to go? Boots on, under a blue sky. Preferably without a rhino, leopard, buffalo or elephant involved. Oh, or a crocodile......(my worst fear in the environment I work in...) When I go, I want it to involve huge explosions, guns, an awesome car chase, and bug-like aliens bent on world domination. You and me both brother, you and me both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldzimm Posted April 2, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,874 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 348 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/08/1955 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Like others I'm not afraid to die, but like most, it is not death that bothers me, it is leaving love ones behind that bothers me the most, I would like to see my grandchildren grow up. Realizing that the time of my death is out of my sphere of influence (LOL), I come to learn that we must live to enjoy every day God has given us and make the most of his creation. I thank God for every breath he gives me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetRain Posted April 2, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 156 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/07/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/07/1990 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I felt the Lord was prompting me to write on the subject of Death. It has been on my heart and mind for some time, and I was about to write this when one of my friends was killed leaving behind his wife and two small children. This set back my writing of this for months but I believe the Lord was preparing me for that news. I have seen also some blame the Lord for death, and even for causing death. So what is death, do we need to fear it, is God evil because he allows it or in some instances apparently causes it. Is it the end, or only the beginning? First where did death enter into the world? It did with Adam. When Adam ate the fruit he died spiritually and brought physical death into the world. (Genesis 3) You see God did not want death, he not only gave us the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he gave us the tree of life. The tree was to give us a choice to love him. That is another story altogether but the point is this. God wanted us to have life, and eternal life. Because of this he then brought forth a plan to redeem our spirit to eternal life through Christ. Whom the Bible calls the second Adam. We seem to have a fear of physical death. But why should we? Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." You see, we all die physically, One thing I have noticed, more then one person in the Bible were raised from the dead. They all died again! Not one of them, at least to my knowledge is alive and kicking on earth to this day. So why worry about our physical death. The when and how we die is not as important as how we lived, and if we have chosen Jesus or not. As Paul says in Philippians 1:2 21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. So if we have chosen Christ, then our physical death is only the beginning of a new and eternal life with Christ. This then makes it clear why the word says Psalm 116:15 (New King James Version) 15 Precious in the sight of the LORD Is the death of His saints. This means we get to be with the Lord with 100% of our being. So does this mean that we should seek to die? To become self destructive, to become depressed and not to try to live? No! Lets look at what Paul says. To Live Is Christ 19 For I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayer and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, 20 according to my earnest expectation and hope that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ will be magnified in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. 24 Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 And being confident of this, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy of faith, 26 that your rejoicing for me may be more abundant in Jesus Christ by my coming to you again. For we can be fruitful in our life, as he says to live is Christ! We are to live for Christ and yet look forward to heaven. As C.S. Lewis put it Hope is one of the Theological virtues. This means that a continual looking forward to the eternal world is not (as some modern people think) a form of escapism or wishful thinking, but one of the things a Christian is meant to do. It does not mean that we are to leave the present world as it is. If you read history you will find that the Christians who did most for the present world were just those who thought most of the next The Apostles themselves, who set on foot the conversion of the Roman Empire, the great men who built up the Middle Ages, the English Evangelicals who abolished the Slave Trade, all left their mark on Earth, precisely because their minds were occupied with Heaven. It is since Christians have largely ceased to think of the other world that they have become so ineffective in this. Aim at Heaven and you will get earth "thrown in": aim at earth and you will get neither." C.S. Lewis, "Mere Christianity" Now there is hope when you are in Christ. How ever if you reject him, you have chosen the spiritual second death, known as hell. You chose this while on earth. Now to address the question of God killing or ordering the killing of people in the old testament. If its only the physical death, which we all face anyway then I do not see an issue. You see since we all die and go to the judgment seat of God, then as I stated before, its not as important how/when we die but how we lived. If we lived an evil life on earth, and God takes us off to prevent us from causing more harm, is that not up to him? If God killed a child molester who had molested several children and kept doing it unrepentantly, would anyone call God evil, or cruel, for taking a danger off the earth to the final judgment? You see when ever God did order or cause the death of people in the Bible, there was a good reason. He took them to the Judgment, where he judged them by there life on earth. So in a nutshell its this. If you don't know Christ, he wants to give you life, and life eternal. He made the way so you can join him! If you know Christ, then do not forget to think about heavenly things, to life for Christ not for yourself. I know to many people who professing Christ, seem to forget this. They only focus on selfish things and do not live for Christ but for themselves. They miss the whole point! And for those who are struggling remember we have Hope! 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (New King James Version) The Comfort of Christ's Coming 13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. You Post is really good! Even though it took me forever to finally finish reading it all (I blame you though for writing a novel). Other than that, keep up the good work and watch out for the monkey's.... THERE EVERWHERE... O.O LOL *hides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah 6:8 Posted April 2, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 426 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,633 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 222 Days Won: 13 Joined: 03/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1978 Author Share Posted April 2, 2011 I felt the Lord was prompting me to write on the subject of Death. It has been on my heart and mind for some time, and I was about to write this when one of my friends was killed leaving behind his wife and two small children. This set back my writing of this for months but I believe the Lord was preparing me for that news. I have seen also some blame the Lord for death, and even for causing death. So what is death, do we need to fear it, is God evil because he allows it or in some instances apparently causes it. Is it the end, or only the beginning? First where did death enter into the world? It did with Adam. When Adam ate the fruit he died spiritually and brought physical death into the world. (Genesis 3) You see God did not want death, he not only gave us the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he gave us the tree of life. The tree was to give us a choice to love him. That is another story altogether but the point is this. God wanted us to have life, and eternal life. Because of this he then brought forth a plan to redeem our spirit to eternal life through Christ. Whom the Bible calls the second Adam. We seem to have a fear of physical death. But why should we? Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." You see, we all die physically, One thing I have noticed, more then one person in the Bible were raised from the dead. They all died again! Not one of them, at least to my knowledge is alive and kicking on earth to this day. So why worry about our physical death. The when and how we die is not as important as how we lived, and if we have chosen Jesus or not. As Paul says in Philippians 1:2 21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. So if we have chosen Christ, then our physical death is only the beginning of a new and eternal life with Christ. This then makes it clear why the word says Psalm 116:15 (New King James Version) 15 Precious in the sight of the LORD Is the death of His saints. This means we get to be with the Lord with 100% of our being. So does this mean that we should seek to die? To become self destructive, to become depressed and not to try to live? No! Lets look at what Paul says. To Live Is Christ 19 For I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayer and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, 20 according to my earnest expectation and hope that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ will be magnified in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. 24 Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 And being confident of this, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy of faith, 26 that your rejoicing for me may be more abundant in Jesus Christ by my coming to you again. For we can be fruitful in our life, as he says to live is Christ! We are to live for Christ and yet look forward to heaven. As C.S. Lewis put it Hope is one of the Theological virtues. This means that a continual looking forward to the eternal world is not (as some modern people think) a form of escapism or wishful thinking, but one of the things a Christian is meant to do. It does not mean that we are to leave the present world as it is. If you read history you will find that the Christians who did most for the present world were just those who thought most of the next The Apostles themselves, who set on foot the conversion of the Roman Empire, the great men who built up the Middle Ages, the English Evangelicals who abolished the Slave Trade, all left their mark on Earth, precisely because their minds were occupied with Heaven. It is since Christians have largely ceased to think of the other world that they have become so ineffective in this. Aim at Heaven and you will get earth "thrown in": aim at earth and you will get neither." C.S. Lewis, "Mere Christianity" Now there is hope when you are in Christ. How ever if you reject him, you have chosen the spiritual second death, known as hell. You chose this while on earth. Now to address the question of God killing or ordering the killing of people in the old testament. If its only the physical death, which we all face anyway then I do not see an issue. You see since we all die and go to the judgment seat of God, then as I stated before, its not as important how/when we die but how we lived. If we lived an evil life on earth, and God takes us off to prevent us from causing more harm, is that not up to him? If God killed a child molester who had molested several children and kept doing it unrepentantly, would anyone call God evil, or cruel, for taking a danger off the earth to the final judgment? You see when ever God did order or cause the death of people in the Bible, there was a good reason. He took them to the Judgment, where he judged them by there life on earth. So in a nutshell its this. If you don't know Christ, he wants to give you life, and life eternal. He made the way so you can join him! If you know Christ, then do not forget to think about heavenly things, to life for Christ not for yourself. I know to many people who professing Christ, seem to forget this. They only focus on selfish things and do not live for Christ but for themselves. They miss the whole point! And for those who are struggling remember we have Hope! 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (New King James Version) The Comfort of Christ's Coming 13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. You Post is really good! Even though it took me forever to finally finish reading it all (I blame you though for writing a novel). Other than that, keep up the good work and watch out for the monkey's.... THERE EVERWHERE... O.O LOL *hides Hey not my fault that I can talk the hind leg off a donkey as my grandma always said I could... and yes monkeys are everywhere.. they're coming to get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 2, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 2, 2011 Am I afraid to die? No. The process though . . . not so much. Me? How would I like to go? Boots on, under a blue sky. Preferably without a rhino, leopard, buffalo or elephant involved. Oh, or a crocodile......(my worst fear in the environment I work in...) When I go, I want it to involve huge explosions, guns, an awesome car chase, and bug-like aliens bent on world domination. That sounds like a video game...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted April 2, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Am I afraid to die? No. The process though . . . not so much. Me? How would I like to go? Boots on, under a blue sky. Preferably without a rhino, leopard, buffalo or elephant involved. Oh, or a crocodile......(my worst fear in the environment I work in...) When I go, I want it to involve huge explosions, guns, an awesome car chase, and bug-like aliens bent on world domination. That sounds like a video game...... He never said he would not be sitting in his recliner, playing on his play station when he died...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetRain Posted April 2, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 156 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/07/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/07/1990 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I felt the Lord was prompting me to write on the subject of Death. It has been on my heart and mind for some time, and I was about to write this when one of my friends was killed leaving behind his wife and two small children. This set back my writing of this for months but I believe the Lord was preparing me for that news. I have seen also some blame the Lord for death, and even for causing death. So what is death, do we need to fear it, is God evil because he allows it or in some instances apparently causes it. Is it the end, or only the beginning? First where did death enter into the world? It did with Adam. When Adam ate the fruit he died spiritually and brought physical death into the world. (Genesis 3) You see God did not want death, he not only gave us the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he gave us the tree of life. The tree was to give us a choice to love him. That is another story altogether but the point is this. God wanted us to have life, and eternal life. Because of this he then brought forth a plan to redeem our spirit to eternal life through Christ. Whom the Bible calls the second Adam. We seem to have a fear of physical death. But why should we? Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." You see, we all die physically, One thing I have noticed, more then one person in the Bible were raised from the dead. They all died again! Not one of them, at least to my knowledge is alive and kicking on earth to this day. So why worry about our physical death. The when and how we die is not as important as how we lived, and if we have chosen Jesus or not. As Paul says in Philippians 1:2 21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. So if we have chosen Christ, then our physical death is only the beginning of a new and eternal life with Christ. This then makes it clear why the word says Psalm 116:15 (New King James Version) 15 Precious in the sight of the LORD Is the death of His saints. This means we get to be with the Lord with 100% of our being. So does this mean that we should seek to die? To become self destructive, to become depressed and not to try to live? No! Lets look at what Paul says. To Live Is Christ 19 For I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayer and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, 20 according to my earnest expectation and hope that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ will be magnified in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. 24 Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 And being confident of this, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy of faith, 26 that your rejoicing for me may be more abundant in Jesus Christ by my coming to you again. For we can be fruitful in our life, as he says to live is Christ! We are to live for Christ and yet look forward to heaven. As C.S. Lewis put it Hope is one of the Theological virtues. This means that a continual looking forward to the eternal world is not (as some modern people think) a form of escapism or wishful thinking, but one of the things a Christian is meant to do. It does not mean that we are to leave the present world as it is. If you read history you will find that the Christians who did most for the present world were just those who thought most of the next The Apostles themselves, who set on foot the conversion of the Roman Empire, the great men who built up the Middle Ages, the English Evangelicals who abolished the Slave Trade, all left their mark on Earth, precisely because their minds were occupied with Heaven. It is since Christians have largely ceased to think of the other world that they have become so ineffective in this. Aim at Heaven and you will get earth "thrown in": aim at earth and you will get neither." C.S. Lewis, "Mere Christianity" Now there is hope when you are in Christ. How ever if you reject him, you have chosen the spiritual second death, known as hell. You chose this while on earth. Now to address the question of God killing or ordering the killing of people in the old testament. If its only the physical death, which we all face anyway then I do not see an issue. You see since we all die and go to the judgment seat of God, then as I stated before, its not as important how/when we die but how we lived. If we lived an evil life on earth, and God takes us off to prevent us from causing more harm, is that not up to him? If God killed a child molester who had molested several children and kept doing it unrepentantly, would anyone call God evil, or cruel, for taking a danger off the earth to the final judgment? You see when ever God did order or cause the death of people in the Bible, there was a good reason. He took them to the Judgment, where he judged them by there life on earth. So in a nutshell its this. If you don't know Christ, he wants to give you life, and life eternal. He made the way so you can join him! If you know Christ, then do not forget to think about heavenly things, to life for Christ not for yourself. I know to many people who professing Christ, seem to forget this. They only focus on selfish things and do not live for Christ but for themselves. They miss the whole point! And for those who are struggling remember we have Hope! 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (New King James Version) The Comfort of Christ's Coming 13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. You Post is really good! Even though it took me forever to finally finish reading it all (I blame you though for writing a novel). Other than that, keep up the good work and watch out for the monkey's.... THERE EVERWHERE... O.O LOL *hides Hey not my fault that I can talk the hind leg off a donkey as my grandma always said I could... and yes monkeys are everywhere.. they're coming to get you. Hide Isaiah Hide!!!! its the monkey apocalypse!!! Wait...... I hear that they only see you when you make sudden movements....! Oh no! It spotted me!!!! *runs in fear* O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted April 2, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted April 2, 2011 Am I afraid to die? No. The process though . . . not so much. Me? How would I like to go? Boots on, under a blue sky. Preferably without a rhino, leopard, buffalo or elephant involved. Oh, or a crocodile......(my worst fear in the environment I work in...) When I go, I want it to involve huge explosions, guns, an awesome car chase, and bug-like aliens bent on world domination. Will we see it on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted April 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Am I afraid to die? No. The process though . . . not so much. Me? How would I like to go? Boots on, under a blue sky. Preferably without a rhino, leopard, buffalo or elephant involved. Oh, or a crocodile......(my worst fear in the environment I work in...) When I go, I want it to involve huge explosions, guns, an awesome car chase, and bug-like aliens bent on world domination. Will we see it on TV? If I play my cards right, I'm pretty sure it'll be on ALL the news channels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted April 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Am I afraid to die? No. The process though . . . not so much. Me? How would I like to go? Boots on, under a blue sky. Preferably without a rhino, leopard, buffalo or elephant involved. Oh, or a crocodile......(my worst fear in the environment I work in...) When I go, I want it to involve huge explosions, guns, an awesome car chase, and bug-like aliens bent on world domination. Will we see it on TV? If I play my cards right, I'm pretty sure it'll be on ALL the news channels... Now there is an emoticon that makes a point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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