Babbler Posted April 22, 2011 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 550 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/08/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2011 Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.--Lk 21, 25 This statement indicates the Gentiles times will come to an end. The destruction of the temple and Israel is the penalty they were to pay for not keeping the covenant with God. In Leviticus chapter twenty-six, the penalty for Israel not keeping the covenant is stated. The severity of punishment grows to seven times seven of the first punishment. It ends with them eating their own sons and daughters (LV 26, 29) Reading the history of the fall of Israel from 66-70, there is no doubt about the savageness of the destruction against Jerusalem and that Israelites did eat their children. But, this is about the end of the Gentiles times. Will Christianity become as abhorrent to God as Israel became? Those of us who are old enough to have witnessed the change in society should now be able to foresee, culturally, where we are headed. Apostasy is growing in the churches. We have homosexuality, and as expected, New Age is now being guised as Christianity. There is no hell and we are all going to heaven. The Christian community is evolving (sic.). Eventually, you will not be able to recognize whether the community is Belial's or the Messiah's. That is when Belial willl sit enthroned and the Lawless One will take his seat. But don't expect to be raptured before this mess. Christ said, "The harvest is the end of the world, while the harvesters are the angels. Just as weeds are collected and burned, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will dispatch his angels to collect from his kingdom all who draw others to apostasy, and all evildoers. Christ said it is a world of apostasy when he arrives. "That is how it will be at the end of the world. Angels will go out and separate the wicked from the just and hurl the wicked into the fiery furnace..." Keeping with that theme, "The War Scroll", from the Dead Sea Scrolls, paints a picture of Angels raining hell down upon the earth. "For our Majestic One is Holy. The King of Glory is with us and the host of his spirit is with our steps. Our horseman are as the clouds and as the mist covering the earth; as a steady downpour shedding judgment on all her offspring." "...then the heavenly hosts shall raise their voices and the everlasting foundations shall melt and quake. The war of the heroes of heaven shall spread over the world and shall not return until annihilation that has been determined from eternity is completed. Nothing like this has ever occurred."--From The Thanksgiving Song also from the Dead Sea Scrolls The End of the Age of Gentiles will not be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted April 23, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Good post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 23, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2011 I totally agree, Babbler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.--Lk 21, 25 This statement indicates the Gentiles times will come to an end. No, that is not what it indicates. It refers to the oppression that the Gentiles will heap on Israel and the fulffillment of it. It refers to the end of the Gentile possession and rulership of Jerusalem. That happened on June 7, 1967 when Jerusalem was finally in Jewish hands for the first time in almost 2,000 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 23, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I wonder about that. 2/3 of Jerusalem is still trampled by the Gentiles, is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I wonder about that. 2/3 of Jerusalem is still trampled by the Gentiles, is it not? "Trampled" is a euphimism for having control of. Jerusalem is the control of the Jews. "Trampled" does not merely refer to a Gentile presence there. There are Gentiles still walking in the city, but they are not in control of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 23, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I wonder about that. 2/3 of Jerusalem is still trampled by the Gentiles, is it not? "Trampled" is a euphimism for having control of. Jerusalem is the control of the Jews. "Trampled" does not merely refer to a Gentile presence there. There are Gentiles still walking in the city, but they are not in control of it. What about the "Christian" section and the "Arab" sections? And what of the Temple Mount? How are the Jews in control of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I wonder about that. 2/3 of Jerusalem is still trampled by the Gentiles, is it not? "Trampled" is a euphimism for having control of. Jerusalem is the control of the Jews. "Trampled" does not merely refer to a Gentile presence there. There are Gentiles still walking in the city, but they are not in control of it. What about the "Christian" section and the "Arab" sections? And what of the Temple Mount? How are the Jews in control of these? When you call the police, Israelis come. If a war breaks out against Jersualem, it is Israelis who will be fighting to defend it. I concur with Shiloh that the "TIMES of the Gentiles" ended on June 7, 1967 Just as the people of Israel had already been judged before the destruction of the Temple which would come a short time later and end their "times", the Gentiles are being judged even now for the dividing of sheep and goat at His coming. And the enemies of His people will be destroyed. I think we could make the case that something new began on June 7, 1967. Since that time, like no other in history, the righteous of all nations (gentiles) have begun blessing Israel. I think we are entering (and have entered) the "TIMES of the one-new man" (or some such title) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 28, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,653 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,837 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) Actually this speaks of the time of the end... in the 70th Week of Daniel... Revelation 11:2 (NASB95) 2 "Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months. Edited April 28, 2011 by JohnDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 28, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,653 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,837 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) dupe Edited April 28, 2011 by JohnDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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