Hebrew Yeshua vs. Greek Jesus

[Guest shiloh357]

I must revise my previous critique of this lecture as my research into Shem Tov's Matthew has revealed some things I was not previously aware of. Gordon ommitted a lot of important information about this document.

This document completely misrepresents Jesus and it has nothing to do with Greek vs. Hebrew mindsets. There are several places where Shem Tov's Matthew omits references to Jesus as Messiah where references to His Messiahship are included in our current version. This can be especially seen how Shem Tov's Matthew omits the word "Messiah" in reference to Jesus in 1:1, 18.

In Shem Tov's Matthew 17:11 Elijah prophesied to save the world.

Shem Tov's Matthew even refers to the preaching of the Gospel to the Gentiles as a the work of the anti-Christ.

I can no longer view this in a postive manner. Nehemia Gordon was at best rather deceptive in that he did not provide all the information to his audience.

[Guest yod]

I must revise my previous critique of this lecture as my research into Shem Tov's Matthew has revealed some things I was not previously aware of. Gordon ommitted a lot of important information about this document.

This document completely misrepresents Jesus and it has nothing to do with Greek vs. Hebrew mindsets. There are several places where Shem Tov's Matthew omits references to Jesus as Messiah where references to His Messiahship are included in our current version. This can be especially seen how Shem Tov's Matthew omits the word "Messiah" in reference to Jesus in 1:1, 18.

In Shem Tov's Matthew 17:11 Elijah prophesied to save the world.

Shem Tov's Matthew even refers to the preaching of the Gospel to the Gentiles as a the work of the anti-Christ.

I can no longer view this in a postive manner. Nehemia Gordon was at best rather deceptive in that he did not provide all the information to his audience.

NEHEMIAH GORDON is not a believer. Why any believer would consider him authorative, or worth consideration, in any way is beyond me.

his agenda is to take people out of the messianic movement and put them in kairite judaism.

[Guest shiloh357]

I must revise my previous critique of this lecture as my research into Shem Tov's Matthew has revealed some things I was not previously aware of. Gordon ommitted a lot of important information about this document.

This document completely misrepresents Jesus and it has nothing to do with Greek vs. Hebrew mindsets. There are several places where Shem Tov's Matthew omits references to Jesus as Messiah where references to His Messiahship are included in our current version. This can be especially seen how Shem Tov's Matthew omits the word "Messiah" in reference to Jesus in 1:1, 18.

In Shem Tov's Matthew 17:11 Elijah prophesied to save the world.

Shem Tov's Matthew even refers to the preaching of the Gospel to the Gentiles as a the work of the anti-Christ.

I can no longer view this in a postive manner. Nehemia Gordon was at best rather deceptive in that he did not provide all the information to his audience.

NEHEMIAH GORDON is not a believer. Why any believer would consider him authorative, or worth consideration, in any way is beyond me.

his agenda is to take people out of the messianic movement and put them in kairite judaism.

Actually, there was a lot truth in terms of his assessment of rabbinic Judaism that was correct. Not everything he said was wrong. In fact, his handling of Hebrew was spot on. It is the issue of the Hebrew Matthew that got off track, which was the core. I also agree with him that Jesus spoke Hebrew not Aramaic (which a Catholic tradition). Although I would not used the verse he used to support that. I had never heard of the Hebrew Matthew until now.

[Guest yod]

I must revise my previous critique of this lecture as my research into Shem Tov's Matthew has revealed some things I was not previously aware of. Gordon ommitted a lot of important information about this document.

This document completely misrepresents Jesus and it has nothing to do with Greek vs. Hebrew mindsets. There are several places where Shem Tov's Matthew omits references to Jesus as Messiah where references to His Messiahship are included in our current version. This can be especially seen how Shem Tov's Matthew omits the word "Messiah" in reference to Jesus in 1:1, 18.

In Shem Tov's Matthew 17:11 Elijah prophesied to save the world.

Shem Tov's Matthew even refers to the preaching of the Gospel to the Gentiles as a the work of the anti-Christ.

I can no longer view this in a postive manner. Nehemia Gordon was at best rather deceptive in that he did not provide all the information to his audience.

NEHEMIAH GORDON is not a believer. Why any believer would consider him authorative, or worth consideration, in any way is beyond me.

his agenda is to take people out of the messianic movement and put them in kairite judaism.

Actually, there was a lot truth in terms of his assessment of rabbinic Judaism that was correct. Not everything he said was wrong. In fact, his handling of Hebrew was spot on. It is the issue of the Hebrew Matthew that got off track, which was the core. I also agree with him that Jesus spoke Hebrew not Aramaic (which a Catholic tradition). Although I would not used the verse he used to support that. I had never heard of the Hebrew Matthew until now.

Most of what the serpent told Eve was true also.

My point is that 99% truth is more dangerous than an obvious lie. Someone who isn't as well studied as you wouldn't know where to discern truth from not-so-true.

[mizzdy]

I must revise my previous critique of this lecture as my research into Shem Tov's Matthew has revealed some things I was not previously aware of. Gordon ommitted a lot of important information about this document.

This document completely misrepresents Jesus and it has nothing to do with Greek vs. Hebrew mindsets. There are several places where Shem Tov's Matthew omits references to Jesus as Messiah where references to His Messiahship are included in our current version. This can be especially seen how Shem Tov's Matthew omits the word "Messiah" in reference to Jesus in 1:1, 18.

In Shem Tov's Matthew 17:11 Elijah prophesied to save the world.

Shem Tov's Matthew even refers to the preaching of the Gospel to the Gentiles as a the work of the anti-Christ.

I can no longer view this in a postive manner. Nehemia Gordon was at best rather deceptive in that he did not provide all the information to his audience.

NEHEMIAH GORDON is not a believer. Why any believer would consider him authorative, or worth consideration, in any way is beyond me.

his agenda is to take people out of the messianic movement and put them in kairite judaism.

And everyone should view the vid with the knowledge that he is not a believer in Yeshua. I do not agree he is out to convert others to Karaite Judaism, I know many believers in Yeshua that know this man personally and not once ever has he ever tried to take away who Yeshua is in their sight period. The man that had been touring with him, Keith, will tell you (I have heard him talk about it) that he has never tried to 'turn' him, we can look at that football player Reggie White and his widow will tell you that Nehemiah helped him see the Messiah in a much better light and never once tried to discourage him from having faith in Yeshua. Certainly we need to be careful what we listen to and who we put trust in when learning, yet in all the videos, fb postings, writings I have read of his he never once to his 'christian' friends negated the Messiah. I will say there have been a few who I know who left a mainstream church, ran into the Messianic movement only to question the Messiah, find Gordon and think he is what the Spirit them. I also know some who went to visit and sit under his teachings that came back and repented of that sin but found greater insights about Him. Like that old saying 'buyer beware' we should be aware of what we are hearing and believing.