Christ 's Birth Revealed

[mizzdy]

[mizzdy]

Wow I did it! Thank you Tigg!!!!

shalom,

Mizz

[He giveth more grace]

#1 He's using a Gregorian Calendar not a Jewish one to define the feast.

#2 No where in the canon of scripture are we told to observe Jesus birth.

(It does say, "Do this in remembrance of me" (i.e.his offering of himself, his death)

I am sorry Mizzdy, I'm not buying it.

[mizzdy]

#1 He's using a Gregorian Calendar not a Jewish one to define the feast.

#2 No where in the canon of scripture are we told to observe Jesus birth.

(It does say, "Do this in remembrance of me" (i.e.his offering of himself, his death)

I am sorry Mizzdy, I'm not buying it.

This man is Jewish who is a Messianic believer. Where does it say which calendary we should use? A calendar is easy we go by the sighting of the moons which show us what months we are in and then we count the days till the Feasts, easily solved, and well there are great controversy with all calendars, the Jews do not have a monoply on which calendar to use my friend. He is trying to show that yes indeed God did call us all to come together three times of the year for called out appointed day and those days point to His birth, death and resurrection that gives us the out pouring of the Holy Spirit. Is it easier to believe 'tradition' that Yeshua was born on Dec. 25? by a Gregorian calendar? We know that Messiah was not born on Dec. 25, we know that He was born during the feast of Sukkot, we know this several ways, one through Zecharias rotation during his service at Sukkot, then we have that age old argument that there would be no shepards in the field during Dec, its the cold and winter season. Sorry you cannot see that He came on a feast appointed by God, shared by probably millions of people who had no real idea their Savior was being born but were there anyway, He was circumcised in the temple on the 8th day shedding His blood even as a new born for us and renewing the covenant with us.

Thing is Monarch no we are not told to celebrate His birthday but God had already set aside a day that He knew His Son would be born on, not that we keep Sukkot for that but its a great reason to do so, but we do so because we want to follow after His ways and do the things our Messiah did. It was foretold that our Messiah would come and dwell with us, Sukkot=tabernacle=dwelling. I am a Messianic believer myself, I keep the Feasts of God each year and in those feasts are the story of Gods plan of salvation and reconcilation study them out for yourself and see.

shalom,

Mizz

[He giveth more grace]

#1 He's using a Gregorian Calendar not a Jewish one to define the feast.

I mean courses.

[mizzdy]

#1 He's using a Gregorian Calendar not a Jewish one to define the feast.

I mean courses.

Do we have a calendar that came from the time of His birth? no we do not. As I explained above we can know the days, times and seasons by the moon sightings and well we do have a lot of good history on calendars, we even know when the feasts were when He was alive on the earth. I do think Mark Blitz being a long time teacher and one who has studied these things throughly knows about the calendars, courses and whatnot. If you don't believe our Messiah was born during Sukkot thats fine, if you can show that christmas is His actual birthday and want to keep that no worries at all but please dont dismiss this because of your dislike of him using a 'Gregorian' calendar, Mark speaks the truth of scriptures and that is what is important.

shalom,

Mizz

[He giveth more grace]

I am a Messianic believer myself, I keep the Feasts of God each year and in those feasts are the story of Gods plan of salvation and reconcilation study them out for yourself and see.

I am sincerely sorry that I offended you, I seem to have done that quite offend on this board. You are a Messianic believer, so am I, I call him Jesus because I am not Jewish and that is his name in the English language. Not going to say more 'cuse you are already have ruffled feathers.

[mizzdy]

I am a Messianic believer myself, I keep the Feasts of God each year and in those feasts are the story of Gods plan of salvation and reconcilation study them out for yourself and see.

I am sincerely sorry that I offended you, I seem to have done that quite offend on this board. You are a Messianic believer, so am I, I call him Jesus because I am not Jewish and that is his name in the English language. Not going to say more 'cuse you are already have ruffled feathers.

Monarchy,

Brother you have not ruffled my feathers, I have pretty thick skin so please reassure yourself you have not offended me in any way. I also am not Jewish, I do keep the Sabbaths and Gods feast, I have studied out the feasts and found Gods plan of salvation in them which is what God designed them for to show the world and those who join to His set apart peoples. The term Messianic does come from those who have left rabbinical Judaism and believes in the Messiah, they still keep the feasts and Sabbaths but have left off the oral Torah. Messiah answers to Jesus, Yeshua, Christ, I choose to use His Hebraic name the one given to Him at birth but its not a salvation issue period.

I would really like to know what you have against a Jewish born man, a Messianic believer, using various calendars? Or is it that you cannot accept that Messiah was not born on Dec. 25? I truly would like to know. While we are on the subject of calendars I would like you to read what Mark has written about calendars, its pretty short and you can always email him and ask questions, as well as poke around the site and see if anything looks interesting to you, heres the link. Please if you dont mind let me know why you are so upset.

shalom,

Mizz

[He giveth more grace]

Brother you have not ruffled my feathers, I have pretty thick skin so please reassure yourself you have not offended me in any way. I also am not Jewish, I do keep the Sabbaths and Gods feast, I have studied out the feasts and found Gods plan of salvation in them which is what God designed them for to show the world and those who join to His set apart peoples. The term Messianic does come from those who have left rabbinical Judaism and believes in the Messiah, they still keep the feasts and Sabbaths but have left off the oral Torah. Messiah answers to Jesus, Yeshua, Christ, I choose to use His Hebraic name the one given to Him at birth but its not a salvation issue period.

I would really like to know what you have against a Jewish born man, a Messianic believer, using various calendars? Or is it that you cannot accept that Messiah was not born on Dec. 25? I truly would like to know. While we are on the subject of calendars I would like you to read what Mark has written about calendars, its pretty short and you can always email him and ask questions, as well as poke around the site and see if anything looks interesting to you, heres the link. Please if you dont mind let me know why you are so upset.

shalom,

Mizz

Well, I would think that all of you would wants to be Jews would know to use the Hebraic calendar and not a gentile calendar. Mizzdy, do you make yourselves a booth on the feast of Sukkot (booth) and live in it until Sukkot is over?

I am not upset, I am just troubled by Christians who needs fetishes to make them feel more holy or spiritual. I can see why Catholicism is attractive to some with all the bowing, making the sign of the cross, and taking the sacraments, praying the rosary. A new covenant has come based of better promises, the old economy of God is become old and obsolete.

God has wrapped everything in Christ and I don't need observances now.

[mizzdy]

Brother you have not ruffled my feathers, I have pretty thick skin so please reassure yourself you have not offended me in any way. I also am not Jewish, I do keep the Sabbaths and Gods feast, I have studied out the feasts and found Gods plan of salvation in them which is what God designed them for to show the world and those who join to His set apart peoples. The term Messianic does come from those who have left rabbinical Judaism and believes in the Messiah, they still keep the feasts and Sabbaths but have left off the oral Torah. Messiah answers to Jesus, Yeshua, Christ, I choose to use His Hebraic name the one given to Him at birth but its not a salvation issue period.

I would really like to know what you have against a Jewish born man, a Messianic believer, using various calendars? Or is it that you cannot accept that Messiah was not born on Dec. 25? I truly would like to know. While we are on the subject of calendars I would like you to read what Mark has written about calendars, its pretty short and you can always email him and ask questions, as well as poke around the site and see if anything looks interesting to you, heres the link. Please if you dont mind let me know why you are so upset.

shalom,

Mizz

Well, I would think that all of you would wants to be Jews would know to use the Hebraic calendar and not a gentile calendar. Mizzdy, do you make yourselves a booth on the feast of Sukkot (booth) and live in it until Sukkot is over?

I am not upset, I am just troubled by Christians who needs fetishes to make them feel more holy or spiritual. I can see why Catholicism is attractive to some with all the bowing, making the sign of the cross, and taking the sacraments, praying the rosary. A new covenant has come based of better promises, the old economy of God is become old and obsolete.

God has wrapped everything in Christ and I don't need observances now.

Wow talk about disresceptful Monarchy. As a matter of fact we have made a Sukkot, ate it in it, laughed, sang songs, worshipped and praised the Creator in one. We do not keep Jewish feasts but the Feast of God, Lev. 23 and other places God calls them His Feast. You know I rarely ever do get upset but how dare you suggest that I and others are trying to be 'Jewish', how dare you make this about me instead of the Messiah. I dare you to walk into a Messianic congregation and find people bowing to fetishes, or whatever you think it is we do to 'make ourselves more Jewish'. We keep the feast because God told us to, we keep them as rehearsals because they will be there in the millennial reign. How dare you compare me or any Jewish person to the rcc. How dare you Monarchy suggest idol worship of someone you do not know, know nothing about and that you know nothing about the things you think you do. In all the years I have been on this board never once has anyone accused me or the others here who keep the Sabbaths and Feasts as idol/fetish worshipper or of trying to be more 'holy or spiritual', never once have I ever gotten so upset about what another person has written. I thought to myself well maybe the recent events in your life may be a reason you 'are not upset but let me degrade you to an idol worshipper' but then again it just seems you hold no brotherly love for others in the body of Messiah, or you really can't stand Jewish people or those who want to keep the commandments of God, I don't know but I will not respond to another word you say now that I know how you veiw me.

Just as a side note I dare you to study the feasts of God and see His plan of salvation in them, I dare you to not see Messiah wrapped in that plan, the blood of the lamb, the giving of His Spirit, His birth, death and resurrection as well as when He comes and dwells among us forevermore.