Can America Bring Peace to the World?

[Ovedya]

I'm sorry God Man, but I just don't buy this. The US was around long before Israel was reformed. Not only that but the biblical "nation" of Israel is not the same as the country Israel. This was hotly debated in one of the threads a while back.

I missed that debate. Too bad. However, the fact that it was debated doesn't mean that the land in Israel is not identified with the people of Isreal. If you follow the pattern in the Old Testament you will see that God first called Abraham, the father of the faithful - Jews and Gentile believers alike - and then called him into the good land to be an inheritance for him and his children. Therefore, God's people - the Jews, Israel - are identified with the land. You cannot separate the two. God's hand is over both the people of Israel and the land of Israel.

I do decry the Genocide, but yet it is not our job to invade a country and "keep the peace" we tried that in Bosnia and now both ethnic groups hate us. I do believe it was wrong to sacrifice American lives, especially when it had nothing to do with the security of the US. The Constitution clearly states what the military is to be used for. If you feel so strongly, start a private organization and head overseas and go defend those people, take volunteers and raise private money.

It is diingenuous to ask US soldiers who swore an oath to defend the US to defend someone else.

"But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?" Jesus replied, "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. Now by chance a priest was going down that road; and when he saw him he passed by on the other side. So likewise a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion, and went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; then he set him on his own beast and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper, saying, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, I will repay you when I come back.' Which of these three, do you think, proved neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?" He said, "The one who showed mercy on him." And Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise."" (Luke 10:29-37)

"A Psalm of Solomon. Give the king thy justice, O God, and thy righteousness to the royal son!...May he defend the cause of the poor of the people, give deliverance to the needy, and crush the oppressor!" (Psalm 72:1,4, emphasis mine.)

"learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; defend the fatherless, plead for the widow." (Isa. 1:17 - God's commandment to His people)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God." (Matt. 5:9)

"And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace." (James 3:18)

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace." (Eccl. 3:1-8)

Now....stop humming that song by the Byrds

[Guest SwordVision]

Steff I admire your perspective and the input and research you have given to your posts. Though I don't agree with 100% of what you said I agree with the thoughts that we (as individuals and we as a country) need to give to the way we get involved in so many trivial things.

I don't think many people really have a clue. A clue to what they believe and a clue to what they should believe. "Going with the flow", "Status-quo". What ever happend to "Narrow is the way"? Oh yeah, it's narrow!

Can America Bring Peace to the World? Of course not and who do we think we are to even think we can. One of my favorite sayings is "With God all things are possible". That is if God wants it that way, not necessarily if we want it that way.

One more thing and I'm done for now. God-man, nothing personal here but how about stepping down from your seat in the heavenlies and join us here in the trenches. Pick up "His" sword and hit the highways and biways. Join the battle, the here and now. That is what He wants. Yes He has prepared a place for us. But he will come and until then "hit the dirt".

[Guest yod]

The most evil force of men since the Nazis has arisen with a declaration to annihilate us....and you want to question if we should oppose them?

you've missed the point completely.

[Steff]

The most evil force of men since the Nazis has arisen with a declaration to annihilate us....and you want to question if we should oppose them?

Ann Coultier, Sean Hannity, GWB, and Bill O'Reilly?

[ted]

I reckon we can take a break from the reality of the war and appreciate the joke!

t.