the beginning of the creation of God

[Daniel59]

Ok, I’m having trouble wrapping my flesh brain around this scripture.

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14 (KJV)

John is writing of Jesus words here in Revelations.

I understand Jesus is God, God is infinite, God is the creator of everything, etc.. I get way past a flesh image of life and have a more comfortable and confident view of spiritual life.

But for some reason this passage sticks with me, having trouble grasping it.

Any one care to help?

Ok, so Jesus is God, Jesus sits at the right hand, meaning the force behind, the teacher, the lord, the rule maker, the sacrifice, etc…

But “the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14”

Jesus / God is the creation of God?

[Guest]

Ok, so Jesus is God, Jesus sits at the right hand, meaning the force behind, the teacher, the lord, the rule maker, the sacrifice, etc…

But “the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14”

Jesus / God is the creation of God?

Simply

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Revelation 3:14

Jesus

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:1-3

In The Beginning

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 3:9

And Today

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2

[~candice~]

It isn't talking about the creation of God creation (which does not exist), but God's creation (the earth/universe etc). Jesus is co-eternal with God.

[Guest shiloh357]

Ok, I’m having trouble wrapping my flesh brain around this scripture.

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14 (KJV)

John is writing of Jesus words here in Revelations.

I understand Jesus is God, God is infinite, God is the creator of everything, etc.. I get way past a flesh image of life and have a more comfortable and confident view of spiritual life.

But for some reason this passage sticks with me, having trouble grasping it.

Any one care to help?

Ok, so Jesus is God, Jesus sits at the right hand, meaning the force behind, the teacher, the lord, the rule maker, the sacrifice, etc…

But “the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14”

Jesus / God is the creation of God?

In Greek it is better rendered. "...the beginning of God's creation." The Greek word "arche" for "beginning" refers to a rank. It means that Jesus is the chief of Creation. Not only that it denotes cause as well, in that Jesus is the Creator (Col. 1:16-17). Jesus is the one who brought it into being and by right of creation, Jesus is the head over it all.

When you examine the Hebrew equivilent word to "arche" which is "reisheet" it is refers to something that is the head of or the chief of. It is again, referring to Jesus authority as the head of the entire created order.

[taylor30]

Ok, I’m having trouble wrapping my flesh brain around this scripture.

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14 (KJV)

John is writing of Jesus words here in Revelations.

I understand Jesus is God, God is infinite, God is the creator of everything, etc.. I get way past a flesh image of life and have a more comfortable and confident view of spiritual life.

But for some reason this passage sticks with me, having trouble grasping it.

Any one care to help?

Ok, so Jesus is God, Jesus sits at the right hand, meaning the force behind, the teacher, the lord, the rule maker, the sacrifice, etc…

But “the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14”

Jesus / God is the creation of God?

I can understand why that would be confusing. It should be understood as "The beginning of God's creation". If you look at it a few times with that mindset it will be clear. It is not talking about Giddy being created BUT OF God's creation of everything.

[Daniel59]

OK, got it thanks, I figured something to that effect, just struck me funny.

actually was considering the creator of an entity so as flesh could have a grasp or human figure to picture to help in the understanding Spirit of God

. But i prefer "...the beginning of God's creation."

Thanks everyone.

[Bold Believer]

Ok, I’m having trouble wrapping my flesh brain around this scripture.

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14 (KJV)

John is writing of Jesus words here in Revelations.

I understand Jesus is God, God is infinite, God is the creator of everything, etc.. I get way past a flesh image of life and have a more comfortable and confident view of spiritual life.

But for some reason this passage sticks with me, having trouble grasping it.

Any one care to help?

Ok, so Jesus is God, Jesus sits at the right hand, meaning the force behind, the teacher, the lord, the rule maker, the sacrifice, etc…

But “the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:14”

Jesus / God is the creation of God?

no Christ is NOT created. The word arche' means chief or ruler as well as beginning. Why the translators used beginning rather than head or chief is beyond me.