one_christian_warrior Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 69 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/26/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1964 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Please pray for me, that the Lord will show me the best way to get this 2020 Vision out to the world. Remember that God set this deadline,(one of the doors of Mathew 24:33) when He Said in verse 34 that this,(our) generation shall not pass=die. (by the way, the other Door is His Glorious Appearance) This verse speaks of both deadlines of His Appearances. We are not only allowed to know these dates, but my minister told me that in the original Greek, it was worded like a command even. This 2020 Vision is of how this end time generation, which the Bible assures us "shall not pass", is soon coming to pass. This end time generation will pass before the year 2020 = (2019.?, I believe Scripture is telling us that it is before January 6th, 2019. This is not the date of His arrivals, but only the doors,(deadlines) which this Mathew passage not only tells us that we are indeed allowed to know, but in the original Greek text, it is worded like a command even. I have the most awesome news to get out to this world. News about how we can be assured of God’s return before the year 2020 starts? That’s right, I can explain and prove by logic and Scripture verses that the Bible assures us in that all who are born again, (Joh 3:3) are promised to “meet the Lord in the air” (I Thes 4:17), to remove His Saints in the (Tit 2:13) “blessed hope” at the end of the first Door= end of Age of Christianity. We may put our trust in the Bible, for although His Word assures us in (Mat 24:36) “that day and hour knoweth no man”, in (Mat 24:33) He not only assures us, but states it as a command, that we will “know that it is near, even at the doors”. You might ask how are we suppose to know that it is near, and what is the door that we are commanded to know. If you believe in the pre-trib Rapture, (like I do) it MUST happen prior the first door=(deadline for His Appearance in the clouds). These are dates that we are not allowed to know about, but in the original Greek, it is worded like a command. His first Door is to rescue His own,(Rapture of the Saints) and then again a little more than seven Hebrew years later, at the end of the tribulation. (His Glorious Appearance) We are given all the facts and figures to calculate these doors=(deadlines). We are given the date of the start of the final generation. It started when Israel took control of Jerusalem, we can know this because the seventy weeks of Daniels 9:24 also concerned Jerusalem= (holy city). If you take June 10th as the latest date for taking control of Jerusalem. And then add 51.6 years for a generation then you get June 10 = day 161/365.25 = 0.441. So the last day of the war = meaning Jerusalem was surely in Israeli control by 1967.441. If you take 1967.441 + 51.6 = 2019.041 = last day that Christ can return for His Saints in the Rapture, and still be able to fulfill the prophecy about this generation shall not pass. 0.041 * 365 = 15 days = Jan 15, 2019 is the last date for Christ to rapture His Church. This is at the beginning of the 7 years of tribulation And if you add 6.9 years for the 2520 day duration of the tribulation 2520 = 7 X 360 / 365.25 = 6.899 solar years 2019.041 + 6.899 = 2025.94 or Dec 8th is the latest time for the second door, which is His Glorious Appearance. So, we are told that no one knows the day or hour, but we are assured that we may know when it is near, even at the doors, sounds like deadlines to me. Where the first door is Jan 15, 2019 when the rapture must occur, which ends the Christian age, when Christ comes to rescue all who are born again. The Tribulation MUST begin by or before this date=deadline=door. Then by adding 2520 days we can get the second door, Dec 8, 2025 is the date that Christ must come back by, and sets His Feet on the earth to judge the nations. I live by His Code = Your Bro, . . . . . joe Edited November 2, 2012 by OneLight links removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_christian_warrior Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 69 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/26/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1964 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 THIS IS GOD’S DEADLINE, NOT MINE.,,, He set it when He Said in (Mat 24:34) Verily I say unto you, This generation SHALL NOT PASS, = (die) till all these things be fulfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I have moved this to controversial. Asking people to pray for this is assuming they agree with you. Lets open it for discussion first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2012 Since the OP cannot post in the Controversial Forums yet, we have moved it to general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,714 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Funny I dont see 20/20 anywhere in the bible. I do see where it says Jesus will come as a thief in the night...as in we dont know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2012 Why? why why why why why why why.........that was me banging my head on the wall sigh....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2012 Please pray for me, that the Lord will show me the best way to get this 2020 Vision out to the world. Remember that God set this deadline,(one of the doors of Mathew 24:33) when He Said in verse 34 that this,(our) generation shall not pass=die. (by the way, the other Door is His Glorious Appearance) This verse speaks of both deadlines of His Appearances. We are not only allowed to know these dates, but my minister told me that in the original Greek, it was worded like a command even. This 2020 Vision is of how this end time generation, which the Bible assures us "shall not pass", is soon coming to pass. This end time generation will pass before the year 2020 = (2019.?, I believe Scripture is telling us that it is before January 6th, 2019. This is not the date of His arrivals, but only the doors,(deadlines) which this Mathew passage not only tells us that we are indeed allowed to know, but in the original Greek text, it is worded like a command even. I have the most awesome news to get out to this world. News about how we can be assured of God’s return before the year 2020 starts? That’s right, I can explain and prove by logic and Scripture verses that the Bible assures us in that all who are born again, (Joh 3:3) are promised to “meet the Lord in the air” (I Thes 4:17), to remove His Saints in the (Tit 2:13) “blessed hope” at the end of the first Door= end of Age of Christianity. We may put our trust in the Bible, for although His Word assures us in (Mat 24:36) “that day and hour knoweth no man”, in (Mat 24:33) He not only assures us, but states it as a command, that we will “know that it is near, even at the doors”. You might ask how are we suppose to know that it is near, and what is the door that we are commanded to know. If you believe in the pre-trib Rapture, (like I do) it MUST happen prior the first door=(deadline for His Appearance in the clouds). These are dates that we are not allowed to know about, but in the original Greek, it is worded like a command. His first Door is to rescue His own,(Rapture of the Saints) and then again a little more than seven Hebrew years later, at the end of the tribulation. (His Glorious Appearance) We are given all the facts and figures to calculate these doors=(deadlines). We are given the date of the start of the final generation. It started when Israel took control of Jerusalem, we can know this because the seventy weeks of Daniels 9:24 also concerned Jerusalem= (holy city). If you take June 10th as the latest date for taking control of Jerusalem. And then add 51.6 years for a generation then you get June 10 = day 161/365.25 = 0.441. So the last day of the war = meaning Jerusalem was surely in Israeli control by 1967.441. If you take 1967.441 + 51.6 = 2019.041 = last day that Christ can return for His Saints in the Rapture, and still be able to fulfill the prophecy about this generation shall not pass. 0.041 * 365 = 15 days = Jan 15, 2019 is the last date for Christ to rapture His Church. This is at the beginning of the 7 years of tribulation And if you add 6.9 years for the 2520 day duration of the tribulation 2520 = 7 X 360 / 365.25 = 6.899 solar years 2019.041 + 6.899 = 2025.94 or Dec 8th is the latest time for the second door, which is His Glorious Appearance. So, we are told that no one knows the day or hour, but we are assured that we may know when it is near, even at the doors, sounds like deadlines to me. Where the first door is Jan 15, 2019 when the rapture must occur, which ends the Christian age, when Christ comes to rescue all who are born again. The Tribulation MUST begin by or before this date=deadline=door. Then by adding 2520 days we can get the second door, Dec 8, 2025 is the date that Christ must come back by, and sets His Feet on the earth to judge the nations. I live by His Code = Your Bro, . . . . . joe Hi Joe, Have you thought about putting down your calculator and focusing on what is being said? A generation is not always a set of days. If someone who was born in 1900 and dies in 2000, that 100 years was that persons generation. If this same person who was born in 1900 had a child in 1920, and his child had a child in 1940, we are talking about three generations. With this in mind, if someone was born in 1948 or 1967, depending on which year you see the fig tree bloom, that generation could very well extend past 2048, depending if there is still someone alive that was alive when the fig tree bloomed. Nobody can state which year with complete certainty, let alone trying to set a month, or day. That is where false teachings begin and scripture stops. We are told to watch for certain seasons, watching prophecy unfold in front of our eyes. We were never told to apply any mathematical equation to dates. It takes faith to let go of our personal theories and trust in Him alone, but are we not told to live by faith? Read what He told us to watch for and leave the date setting to God. Only He knows the time His Son will return or when He will call us home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2012 Um... One word comes to mind when reading this - Wow. Should be interesting to see what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Funny I don't see 20/20 anywhere in the bible. I do see where it says Jesus will come as a thief in the night...as in we don't know... Sounds More Like Some Broadcast TV Show Than Those Holy Words Found Within My Bible For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 Anyway The Timing Of His Coming Is More About Jerusalem And The Jew And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: Matthew 24:14-20 Than About The Bookies Of Doom With Their Handicapping For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:21-27 IMO Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.Matthew 6:24 Go~! And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15 ~ Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING Love. Your Brother Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted November 1, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2012 Should be interesting to see what others think. You won't be saying this in a few months... in the meantime.......... Please pray for me, that the Lord will show me the best way to get this 2020 Vision out to the world. Remember that God set this deadline,(one of the doors of Mathew 24:33) when He Said in verse 34 that this,(our) generation shall not pass=die. (by the way, the other Door is His Glorious Appearance) This verse speaks of both deadlines of His Appearances. We are not only allowed to know these dates, but my minister told me that in the original Greek, it was worded like a command even. Did God run out of instructions at the end of the vision and could not tell you how to get 'it out'? Seriously, aren't you just drawing attention to yr site? This is a revolving door subject here...most predictions are a little closer than yours is tho bang bang bang...whoops...got caught in that door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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