Heaven....a physical or a spiritual realm?

[JDavis]

John 18:³⁶ Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

 

Heb 9:¹¹ But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that are now already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made with human hands, that is to say, is not a part of this creation.

 

I Cor 15:

 

⁴⁴ it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body

 

⁵⁰ I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. ⁵¹ Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— ⁵² in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. ⁵³ For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

[missmuffet]

Heaven is a real physical place.The Bible tells us that heaven is God's throne.

Isaiah 66:1

Acts 7:48-49

Matthew 5:34-35

[JDavis]

Heaven is a real physical place.The Bible tells us that heaven is God's throne.

Isaiah 66:1

Acts 7:48-49

Matthew 5:34-35

 

so, if God's throne is a physical place it only stands to reason that God is too a physical being.  Is that your point of view?

[Guest]

Heaven is a real physical place.The Bible tells us that heaven is God's throne.

 

Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

 

Acts 7:48-49 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?

 

Matthew 5:34-35 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

 

so, if God's throne is a physical place it only stands to reason that God is too a physical being.  Is that your point of view?

 

 

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But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. John 20:24-25

 

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And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. John 20:26-27

 

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And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:28

[~candice~]

I think it is obvious from scripture that we will get new glorified bodies, so I take it that it is at least possible, though I am open to it being both spiritual AND physical. In fact, that is what I think scripture dictates. Our resurrection will be like Jesus' resurrection, and His resurrection was physical!

[Diatheosis]

My two cents.

 

What is physical anyways? Mostly empty space from our perspective, yet how can that be?

 

And where is anything? Can you give a location without an indication to a physical element, which again consists of what?

 

So, everything is within God's creation, no matter do we call it physical or spiritual. Yet, of course still we perceive difference being in this world or Heaven.

 

Is it our perception, or on what reality is based?

 

This material world has a beginning and presumably an end, but how it is with the Heaven?

 

Our reality is as God makes it to be. What are the physics of Heaven? The term physics coming from the Greek term physis which means nature. Heaven must have its natural (eternal?) state of being, too, as God created it. In that sense Heaven is physical, probably not as we understand physicality, but according to the original meaning of the word applied and bent a little bit.

 

Is it spiritual? Definitely and completely.

 

It is just our minds that are a bit stuck on to this world. For God, His Creation keeps on dancing with all its tiniest particles in a beautiful motion. And this we call physicality.

 

All too huge to comprehend without His Spirit. And even with His Spirit enlightening us, we simply cannot lose feeling the humility in front of the amazing majesty of everything that has to do with our Lord. He's simply superb and awesome. Can something be too good? I mean, that should almost be a thread in itself.

Edited July 22, 2013 by Diatheosis

[Enoc]

Interesting......maybe are perception of physical is limited. 

[missmuffet]

 

Heaven is a real physical place.The Bible tells us that heaven is God's throne.

Isaiah 66:1

Acts 7:48-49

Matthew 5:34-35

 

so, if God's throne is a physical place it only stands to reason that God is too a physical being.  Is that your point of view?

 

Not necessarily.You ask if "heaven" was a physical place not God.Don't put words in my mouth.God can be both.

[chance]

John 18:³⁶ Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

 

Heb 9:¹¹ But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that are now already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made with human hands, that is to say, is not a part of this creation.

 

I Cor 15:

 

⁴⁴ it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body

 

⁵⁰ I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. ⁵¹ Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— ⁵² in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. ⁵³ For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

A new heaven and a new earth

[Diatheosis]

Again I address, what is understood by physical? Our definition does not reach the truth because it is often limited by the understanding of our time, even though we rely on God's Word because it has to be interpreted for the intelligence to make something out of it.

 

So called physicality, velocity of electrons in relation to neutrons and protons. Our understanding is indeed limited, more than we might want to acknowledge. God escapes all of our attempts to be defined in this way. We may glorify Him according to our understanding based on the scripture and the interpretation coming from that, but on the level of experienced true knowing how it all fits together, we truly are like children. 

 

We really shouldn't brag about these things. All I can say, is that what we make of it is child play.

 

What is between physical and spiritual? I don't say they are one and the same thing. But what we make out of it is another thing.