Do Creationists Circumvent Science?

[thomas t]

Good day Faith vs. Science users,

 

Gerald says that creationist organizations do not submit their theses to the scientific community. He reasons that "they've never written up this historically astounding material and submitted it to a scientific journal. As we discussed, even if they get rejected repeatedly, if their arguments are scientifically valid then the rejection letters will necessarily be arbitrary, which RtB could then present as clear evidence that their scientifically valid material is being arbitrarily suppressed. "

 

In response to the apparently missing rejection letters, a fellow brother pointed to the film "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed hosted and directed by Ben Stein". To my knowledge, this film didn't purport any rejection letter by a scientific journal, either. Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.

 

So, I want to ask you, are creationist organisations not trying to get their discussions into the scientific community?

If so, why?

 

 

Thomas

 

 

 

 

 

[MarkNigro]

Those that hold to evolution from atoms to mankind and long ages of the universe circumvent and violate all scientific principles. Creationists love science and have the right answers to boot.

 

No evolutionists seems to be able to answer or refute the issues I have brought up. That is circumventing science.

[Guest]

The Religious Miss-Use Of Science

 

"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." — C. S. Lewis

 

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20

 

It's A Pagan Thing

 

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Romans 1:21-22

 

You See

 

And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

 

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

 

And ye are witnesses of these things. Luke 24:44-48

 

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So, I want to ask you, are creationist organizations not trying to get their discussions into the scientific community? If so, why?

 

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For The Sake

 

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 3:9

 

Of The

 

He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. Matthew 12:30

 

Truth

 

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16

[Ninevite]

 

So, I want to ask you, are creationist organisations not trying to get their discussions into the scientific community?

If so, why?

 

No, they're not.  If they were, they would actually have a manuscript and a pile of rejection letters.

 

But as we can see, some creationists apparently blame the scientific community for not accepting something that's never been submitted to them.  Bizarre.

 

 

I assume you can back up this assertion.

Edited August 16, 2013 by Ninevite

[MarkNigro]

 

So, I want to ask you, are creationist organisations not trying to get their discussions into the scientific community?

If so, why?

 

No, they're not.  If they were, they would actually have a manuscript and a pile of rejection letters.

 

But as we can see, some creationists apparently blame the scientific community for not accepting something that's never been submitted to them.  Bizarre.

 

Rejected by who? Biased fooled "scientists"?

[MarkNigro]

Good day Faith vs. Science users,

 

Gerald says that creationist organizations do not submit their theses to the scientific community. He reasons that "they've never written up this historically astounding material and submitted it to a scientific journal. As we discussed, even if they get rejected repeatedly, if their arguments are scientifically valid then the rejection letters will necessarily be arbitrary, which RtB could then present as clear evidence that their scientifically valid material is being arbitrarily suppressed. "

 

In response to the apparently missing rejection letters, a fellow brother pointed to the film "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed hosted and directed by Ben Stein". To my knowledge, this film didn't purport any rejection letter by a scientific journal, either. Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.

 

So, I want to ask you, are creationist organisations not trying to get their discussions into the scientific community?

If so, why?

 

 

Thomas

Robert Gentry did receive many rejection letters and claimed censorship. He is a creationist scientist.

 

Does that help?

[thomas t]

Robert Gentry did receive many rejection letters and claimed censorship. He is a creationist scientist.

 

Does that help?

Can we read this? Then it would help to get a picture of the situation..

[MarkNigro]

There is a site http://www.halos.com

 

He wrote a book. I read it a number of years ago. It documents censorship and discrimination.

 

The book is Creation's Tiny Mystery

[thomas t]

There is a site http://www.halos.com

 

He wrote a book. I read it a number of years ago. It documents censorship and discrimination.

 

The book is Creation's Tiny Mystery

Hum, this is about the rejection of the Big Bang. Those who reject it claim to be subjected to discrimination by the scientific community. My point is not that the Big Bang isn’t true, so I don’t want to say anything about it here..

[MarkNigro]

 

There is a site http://www.halos.com

 

He wrote a book. I read it a number of years ago. It documents censorship and discrimination.

 

The book is Creation's Tiny Mystery

Hum, this is about the rejection of the Big Bang. Those who reject it claim to be subjected to discrimination by the scientific community. My point is not that the Big Bang isn’t true, so I don’t want to say anything about it here..

 

In the book, Gentry claims actually evidence for instantaneous creation and evidence for the worldwide flood.