Can God be worshiped with lies?

[Guest PilgrimSteve]

Can God be worshiped with lies?

John 4:23

[Guest yod]

I used to think a lot like that......

christmas is a cultural celebration much like Thanksgiving or Columbus Day to me. EVERY DAY is a day of worship....the devil can't have single one of them.

[Kabowd]

There are many things which have become traditions/holidays that don't have glowing spiritual origins. However, Christmas...like any other day...is what you make it. God looks at the heart. I believe He's just as grieved the other 364 days of the year that we live for ourselves, whether they are "holidays" or not. It's a matter of personal conviction. The Holy Spirit is perfectly capable of convicting those whose hearts are not in the right place. If Christmas causes you to stumble, by all means, you should avoid it. But once you begin to force your convictions on others you've crossed the line into legalism and essentially trying to be the Holy Spirit for others. Personally, I think legalism is probably more offensive to God than any holiday.

[Guest PilgrimSteve]

So, are you all saying God can be worshiped with lies as long as it is done with a sincere heart?

PilgrimSteve

[Guest yod]

I didn't say anything remotely close to that. What planet are you from?

[Guest shiloh357]

So, are you all saying God can be worshiped with lies as long as it is done with a sincere heart?

PilgrimSteve

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The same people who espouse what you are saying also say the following as well.

The word "God" is actually a Germanic/Teutonic word which was originally "Gott." It was the name of the Teutonic god of the sun. They also spread the nonsense that "Jesus" is a spinoff of "Zeus," and means the "son of Zeus" or the "healing Zeus" depending on exactly who talk to.

I say all of that because it is just as nonsensical. They are wrong about the origins of those words and there are conflicting traditions about the origins of Christmas traditions. If you don't want to celebrate the holiday, then don't. You can live in your world if you choose. Dont' expect many of us to join you.

[Guest PilgrimSteve]

So, are you all saying God can be worshiped with lies as long as it is done with a sincere heart?

PilgrimSteve

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The same people who espouse what you are saying also say the following as well.

The word "God" is actually a Germanic/Teutonic word which was originally "Gott." It was the name of the Teutonic god of the sun. They also spread the nonsense that "Jesus" is a spinoff of "Zeus," and means the "son of Zeus" or the "healing Zeus" depending on exactly who talk to.

I say all of that because it is just as nonsensical. They are wrong about the origins of those words and there are conflicting traditions about the origins of Christmas traditions. If you don't want to celebrate the holiday, then don't. You can live in your world if you choose. Dont' expect many of us to join you.

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Are you saying that the word "christmas" does not mean the mass of christ?

PilgrimSteve

[Guest shiloh357]

So, are you all saying God can be worshiped with lies as long as it is done with a sincere heart?

PilgrimSteve

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The same people who espouse what you are saying also say the following as well.

The word "God" is actually a Germanic/Teutonic word which was originally "Gott." It was the name of the Teutonic god of the sun. They also spread the nonsense that "Jesus" is a spinoff of "Zeus," and means the "son of Zeus" or the "healing Zeus" depending on exactly who talk to.

I say all of that because it is just as nonsensical. They are wrong about the origins of those words and there are conflicting traditions about the origins of Christmas traditions. If you don't want to celebrate the holiday, then don't. You can live in your world if you choose. Dont' expect many of us to join you.

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Are you saying that the word "christmas" does not mean the mass of christ?

PilgrimSteve

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I'm saying, I don't care if it does or not. You're the one with the problem with Christmas. You can deal with it by yourself. The rest of us will move on to more important and edifying issues.

[Leonard]

WOW!!! EVERYBODY has had it wrong for 2,000 years!

The Church got it all wrong. All the Church Fathers are all doomed and burning in hell even as we speak! We were all headed for doom unil PILGRIM STEVE showed up!!! Thank goodness Pilgrim Steve got it right! Now somebody can get saved.........

[apothanein kerdos]

So it's wrong to celebrate Christmas because of it's origins? Should I be baptized seeing as how baptism began as a pagan practice? Should I become a disciple of Christ seeing as how 2,000 years ago only cultist became disciples of a certain teaching? Should I light a candle even though candles were and are still used in pagan and cultic practices?

Almost everything within Christianity has pagan origins. God took from these pagans and used it for good. Why can He not do the same thing with Christmas?