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[Keifer]

Welcome to the boards Ed.

OrthodoxCatholic: "I can't find anything about "accepting Jesus" in the Bible...I never could figure out when I really "meant it with all my heart."   I don't see that language in Scripture either. "

Then, perhaps, you should read it again:

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." ( Romans 10:9-10 )

OrthodoxCatholic: "But the nice thing about the Eucharist is this.  It works. God promised and that's all I need to know."

The Eucharist does not save you. If you are relying on something YOU can do ( such as the Eucharist ) to provide your salvation, you're saying Christ's work on the cross wasn't enough. You're attempting to attain Heaven by your works ( the Eucharist ), and the Bible says that doesn't save you. Salvation is by the grace of God through faith in the Lord ONLY:

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." ( Ephesians 2:8-9 )

Ephesians 2:8-9 tells us what saves us. Romans 10:9-10 tells us what to do to be saved..."confess with thy mouth" ( acceptance ), and "believe in thine heart" ( righteousness ).

Keith

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 )

[Keifer]

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." ( John 14:6 )

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." ( Romans 10:9-10 )

Jesus said there is only one way you can get to heaven. If you have not accepted Him as your Savior, you must or you will be condemned for eternity:

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." ( John 3:18 )

To accept Jesus as your Savior, pray this prayer, or one similar:

Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner and need Your forgiveness. I believe that You died for my sins, and God raised You from the dead. I want to turn from my sins. I now invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as Lord and Savior. In Jesus' name, amen.

If you said this prayer and meant it with your heart, welcome to the family of Christ, and to eternal life! Please read and study your Bible, and pray every day for guidance. If you don't have a Bible, here is one online: Blue Letter Bible.

I am your brother in Christ Jesus,

Keith

[OrthodoxCatholic]

We stand for confession.  And yes, I do confess, since the Scriptures tell me "If we say we have no sins we decieve ourselves and the truth is not in us.   If we CONFESS our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."   Why don't you confess?  It will do ya worlds of good!!

You didn't answer my post, Keifer.  I showed you the words of Christ, and you deny them with your post.  He says that we must eat His Flesh and drink His Blood to have eternal life.

And while we are at it, why didn't the Early Fathers of the Church, who learned doctrine from the apostles who were taught of Jesus,  invent the "altar call" system of salvation?  Perhaps your verse in Romans has a slightly different meaning in the Greek than what you have attached to it.

Let's see if we can take this a bit further:

Ro 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

See verse 7?  St. Paul says that those who have persevered in doing good shall receive eternal life.  Why doesn't St. Paul mention a "decision for Jesus" in this picture he is painting of the Great Judgement?

Jesus says the same thing:

Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Jesus says they that have done good.  Well, isn't that interesting.  No mention of having "made a decision for Jesus".  Why not?

In fact, eternal life is called an inheritance in Scripture:

Mr 10:17

[Guest racer]

OC,

We stand for confession.

[Keifer]

Thank you for your assistance Racer, but I feel that Father's Word is falling on deaf ears.

OrthodoxCatholic: "Why don't you confess?  It will do ya worlds of good!!"

When insinuations are made that someone is not saved, Ed, it's time for my participation to halt. You don't have the authority to question someones salvation...that is reserved only for the Father.

OrthodoxCatholic: "You didn't answer my post, Keifer."

Yes, Racer and I both have...with Scripture. You simply have chosen not to consider it, therefore my conversation with you is finished. It's unfortunate that you have apparently made the decision to continue with penance to your Priest who can't save you, as opposed to repentance to the Lord who can.

Keith

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." ( Acts 4:12 )

[Keifer]

"Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace." ( Psalms 37:37 )

[Keifer]

"Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost." ( Romans 15:13 )

[Keifer]

"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." ( Hebrews 11:3 )

[Keifer]

"Thou hast granted me life and favour, and thy visitation hath preserved my spirit." ( Job 10:12 )

[Keifer]

"Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God." ( Romans 15:5-7 )