fire-heart Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 386 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/02/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/20/1991 Share Posted March 5, 2014 so i felt i should share this. you see sometimes almost rarely in my sleep i am taken into the spiritual realm. in there you dont think with logic you speak and react with your heart. i was in a white place i saw someone go into a door and knew i was to follow. i went in and i was in hell it was more real and vivid than real life and the heat and humidity was horrible and my sweat made my shirt stick to me. i saw the lake of fire and above it was a cage with a chain full of ppl at a random time they would be dropped in the lake i saw ppl who were on ground but the ground itself inflicted pain i saw ruins were ppl lived but would randomly be attacked by demons and above the area was a balcony in front of ruins was Jesus in a chair waiting for me i got in his lap i was thirsty beyond reason but for some reason i felt asking for water would be to burdensom so iasked him for some he reached under his chair and out of nowhere pulled out bread he gave it to me but i could tell he was very and said you shouldnt have to suffer and tried to give it back but he refused and i didnt dare question him. i then looked in the ruins and there was a man there ppl from the balcony threw rocks at him laughing and mocking and he just sat there and took it his face looked as if he had fully accepted his fate as if he deserved it. then in the ruins a demon came out and he looked just like the alien from alien vs preditar the demon saw me and came after me and i was scared and held on to jesus with my eyes closed he held me very tightly it almost hurt the demon went away. i looked at jesus and said very seriously i have to be just like you he just stared at me for a minute so i smiled cause i thought maybe he thought i was mad and he just laughed but then a person fell in the lake that wasnt supposed to and he went to save them i was somehow taken into the cage above the lake and started to fall into the fire i wasnt afraid i said to myself i trust in the lord and called to jesus right before i went into the fire next thing i know jesus and i are out of hell just walking and i asked jesus if the cage was a test of my faith and he nodded yes the we see three men and i and saying excitedly look look! its jesus¡ the said ya right and jesus with arms open wide said brothers! have you lost your faith? then they turned into a demon grabbed me and we became something called an unholy trinity i was the spirit part even as i was consumed i trusted jesus i said to myself god would not have created me to be consumed by a demon jesus looked angry and said angrily let him go but the demon flew away with me yet i still trusted god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2014 yet i still trusted God Fear hath torment but perfect love casts out fear. The opposite of fear is trust and faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Online Share Posted March 5, 2014 Demons are punished in the lake of fire too. So why would they have the ability to torment others? I think you are making too much of your dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire-heart Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 386 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/02/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/20/1991 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Demons are punished in the lake of fire too. So why would they have the ability to torment others? I think you are making too much of your dream. it wasnt a dream i was literally taken into the spiritual realm i dont understand it all either but i mean hey i got to meet jesus:] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Online Share Posted March 5, 2014 Im sorry but it contradicts scripture. Demons do not rule in hell. They do not get to torment anyone. Matthew 8 28 And when He had come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, two demon-possessed ones met Him, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one might pass by that way. 29 And behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with You, Jesus, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time? Revelation 20 10 And the Devil who deceived them was cast into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet were . And he will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire-heart Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 386 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/02/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/20/1991 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Im sorry but it contradicts scripture. Demons do not rule in hell. They do not get to torment anyone. Matthew 8 28 And when He had come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, two demon-possessed ones met Him, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one might pass by that way. 29 And behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with You, Jesus, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time? Revelation 20 10 And the Devil who deceived them was cast into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet were . And he will be tormented day and night forever and ever. so you dont think these demons out of anger would torture ppl there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Lets look at this for a moment, and lets suppose that these creatures were tormenters, angels used to torment the wicked, rather than demons. I don't see how innocent people could almost fall into hell. I don't see how people in hell could throw rocks at Jesus and why he would allow it. I could see Jesus allowing a person to have a vision of people being tormented in hell, but the things you describe don't seem like they fit. I would think that those in hell would be pleading for mercy, having realized what hell is like, not throwing rocks at Jesus. I am not going to dismiss your experience, but I do have to question whether or not it was really as it appeared, and not some kind of deception. Just out of curiosity, have you ever been involved in the occult? Also, you said you have been taken into the spiritual realm more than once. Can you describe your other experiences? Thanks, and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think whatever your encounter was that it was fear based. And as others have stated it doesn't coincide with what we have been given in scriptures concerning hell and the lake of fire. Fear is a very powerful feeling and emotion that can even paralyze a person and manifest itself in a wide variety of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire-heart Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 386 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/02/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/20/1991 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Lets look at this for a moment, and lets suppose that these creatures were tormenters, angels used to torment the wicked, rather than demons. I don't see how innocent people could almost fall into hell. I don't see how people in hell could throw rocks at Jesus and why he would allow it. I could see Jesus allowing a person to have a vision of people being tormented in hell, but the things you describe don't seem like they fit. I would think that those in hell would be pleading for mercy, having realized what hell is like, not throwing rocks at Jesus. I am not going to dismiss your experience, but I do have to question whether or not it was really as it appeared, and not some kind of deception. Just out of curiosity, have you ever been involved in the occult? Also, you said you have been taken into the spiritual realm more than once. Can you describe your other experiences? Thanks, and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with us. first they werent throwing rocks at jesus but a man and no i have never been in an occult. as for the other times i was taken into the spiritual i can tell you two right now but the third will require me to make a thread about because of how long it is. i have met god the father twice we always meet in a pure white place there is a name for it but i cant remeber what its called but time and space do not exist there i was there for mere minutes yet i had a twelve hour sleep i dint even have any dreams. the first was before i was a believer god took me to that white place and i was on his right in front of us he said was his plan and it looked like a river of colors far more vivid and colorful than those that can exist on earth. so much so i was bawling saying over and over ty for showing me this. the second time we met in the same place i had been drinking so much coffee in the day that it was damaging my body so when we met he told me i need to stop drinking coffe and i said but lord i need it to wake up in the morning and he said in a loud voice then just drink it in the morning. btw if this event of hell was of fear why did i get to meet jesus and why was i not afraid and trusted god both when i was falling into the fire and when the demon consumed me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe_fantastic Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 868 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/09/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1981 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Not to discount anything you experienced, but you know, sometimes dreams are just dreams, even ones that are spiritual in nature. I often have dreams in which I rebuke demons with the name of Jesus, but they're just dreams, not a message from God, not a demonic attack, just dreams. Oftentimes our conscious mind can repress much of the fear we feel, but when we fall asleep that consciousness isn't there to hold it back and we experience that fear in our dreams. Again, I don't want you to think I'm writing off what you've shared. It's just something that was shared with me that eased my anxiety about my dreams, so I felt I should share it with you. Bless you, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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