almightyist Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/03/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Genesis 9:5-6 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being. “Whoever sheds human blood,by humans shall their blood be shed;for in the image of God has God made mankind. ...I found it interesting that this is the first and about the only thing God said after the flood to Noah. So it must be very close to Gods heart. By the way.... shed blood - - to kill by violence; slaughter. slaugh·ter - the brutal or violent killing of a person. - to kill in a brutal or violent manner. I would say that pretty much describes an abortion. So if I'm reading this correctly really the people partaking in abortion should be executed the same way. Whoever slaughters human blood by humans their blood should be slaughtered. I also find it interesting when Jesus was slaughtered....they released a murderer. Why was that murderer even alive? When did we stop obeying God on this? And why? Do u think when Jesus comes back and rules on earth he will implement what his Father told Noah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2014 Why didn't God slaughter David when he had someone brutally killed? Why didn't God slaughter Moses when he brutally killed the Egyptian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2014 Why didn't Jesus call down the angles and kill those that were brutally killing Him instead of forgiving them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2014 Genesis 9:5-6 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being. “Whoever sheds human blood,by humans shall their blood be shed;for in the image of God has God made mankind. ... I found it interesting that this is the first and about the only thing God said after the flood to Noah. So it must be very close to Gods heart. By the way.... shed blood - - to kill by violence; slaughter. slaugh·ter - the brutal or violent killing of a person. - to kill in a brutal or violent manner. I would say that pretty much describes an abortion. So if I'm reading this correctly really the people partaking in abortion should be executed the same way. Whoever slaughters human blood by humans their blood should be slaughtered. I also find it interesting when Jesus was slaughtered....they released a murderer. Why was that murderer even alive? When did we stop obeying God on this? And why? Do u think when Jesus comes back and rules on earth he will implement what his Father told Noah? I think a little thought and understanding is required here. Time did not stand still after the flood. I would expect Noah continued to look towards God and God continued to lead him. Every word or impression or events that occured are simply not recorded in scripture and I think that believing only what is written is all that ever transpired, leads to erroneous conclusions. 1. The law was not yet given, so saying that the only stipulation concerning murder was given to Noah after the flood by God would be wrong 2. Why didn't God kill Cain right off? Seems He should have done so if your understanding is correct...rather, God had this to say: Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” 15But the Lord said to him, “Not soe ; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,f east of Eden. Gen.4 3. The law was given to define sin. If you cannot keep the entire law, then you have broken all of it. Scripture actually says this regarding keeping the law: Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”d 9So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. 10For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”e 11Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”f 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”g 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”h 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. Gal. 3 Your reasoning does not actually take into account all that the Bible has to say about God's vengeance, God's knowledge of the heart and all the other things we cannot apply when it comes to deciding the fate of an individual. Homosexuality is also punishable by death. Who is going to run the death squads putting everyone who transgresses God's law to death? Should Christians apply the death penalty? Your premise creates questions and does not address God's solution to sin which is not arrived at by killing everyone who breaks His law because all of us are guilty of breaking His law and all of us deserve the death penalty...even if we had never aborted a child or murdered someone or even accidentally killed someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyist Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/03/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Why didn't God slaughter David when he had someone brutally killed? Why didn't God slaughter Moses when he brutally killed the Egyptian?Genesis 9:5-6 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being. “Whoever sheds human blood,by humans shall their blood be shed;for in the image of God has God made mankind. ... BY HUMANS. Good questions. Why didn't HUMANS slaughter David and Moses ....and while on the subject how about Paul...? Why are Humans letting humans get way with murder? When God said it was alright to rid the earth of them..... Humans should have intervened for Jesus.... Humans should intervene for innocent lives being slaughtered if you want to win favor and be obedient to Almighty God... INNOCENT is the key word... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2014 Why didn't Jesus call down the angles and kill those that were brutally killing Him instead of forgiving them? For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2014 Why didn't God slaughter David when he had someone brutally killed? Why didn't God slaughter Moses when he brutally killed the Egyptian? Genesis 9:5-6 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being. “Whoever sheds human blood,by humans shall their blood be shed;for in the image of God has God made mankind. ... BY HUMANS. Good questions. Why didn't HUMANS slaughter David and Moses ....and while on the subject how about Paul...? Why are Humans letting humans get way with murder? When God said it was alright to rid the earth of them..... Humans should have intervened for Jesus.... Humans should intervene for innocent lives being slaughtered if you want to win favor and be obedient to Almighty God... INNOCENT is the key word... The answers you appear to seek are contained in the Bible. The entire book however, and not just one verse that you appear to interpret as God's stamp of approval on killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2014 I will echo 7seas...you are taking a single verse out of its context and trying to apply too much doctrine to it. I would suggest you move past this verse and read the rest of your bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyist Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/03/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Genesis 9:5-6 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being. “Whoever sheds human blood,by humans shall their blood be shed;for in the image of God has God made mankind. ... I found it interesting that this is the first and about the only thing God said after the flood to Noah. So it must be very close to Gods heart. By the way.... shed blood - - to kill by violence; slaughter. slaugh·ter - the brutal or violent killing of a person. - to kill in a brutal or violent manner. I would say that pretty much describes an abortion. So if I'm reading this correctly really the people partaking in abortion should be executed the same way. Whoever slaughters human blood by humans their blood should be slaughtered. I also find it interesting when Jesus was slaughtered....they released a murderer. Why was that murderer even alive? When did we stop obeying God on this? And why? Do u think when Jesus comes back and rules on earth he will implement what his Father told Noah? I think a little thought and understanding is required here. Time did not stand still after the flood. I would expect Noah continued to look towards God and God continued to lead him. Every word or impression or events that occured are simply not recorded in scripture and I think that believing only what is written is all that ever transpired,leads to erroneous conclusions. 1. The law was not yet given, so saying that the only stipulation concerning murder was given to Noah after the flood by God would be wrong 2. Why didn't God kill Cain right off? Seems He should have done so if your understanding is correct...rather, God had this to say: Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”15But the Lord said to him, “Not soe ; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,f east of Eden. Gen.4 3. The law was given to define sin. If you cannot keep the entire law, then you have broken all of it. Scripture actually says this regarding keeping the law: Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”d 9So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.10For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”e 11Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”f 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”g 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”h 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. Gal. 3 Your reasoning does not actually take into account all that the Bible has to say about God's vengeance, God's knowledge of the heart and all the other things we cannot applywhen it comes to deciding the fate of an individual. Homosexuality is also punishable by death. Who is going to run the death squads putting everyone who transgresses God's law to death? Should Christians apply the death penalty? Your premise creates questions and does not address God's solution to sin which is not arrived at by killing everyone who breaks His law because all of us are guilty of breakingHis law and all of us deserve the death penalty...even if we had never aborted a child or murdered someone or even accidentally killed someone. So God changed his mind....so shedding blood is no big deal....just ask forgiveness....so Jesus came to earth....to allow us to abort babies by the millions...innocent blood...it not a human being....it's a choice....please quote scripture that overrides God commandment... Abortionist can be forgiven...if it comes from the heart...but that shouldn't override the punishment of shedding innocent blood...no matter what a man made law says... I feel like us as humans have neglected our responsibilities....to do what God said to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted March 31, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2014 If that is the way you feel then why are you not complying with what you see to be an absolute command. Why ask us why we are not, look inward and ask your self the question. How many people have you executed in God's name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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