ARGOSY Posted July 7, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Marilyn, What are your thoughts about the potential psalm 83 war that many end timers are discussing and looking to see play out? Many say this is the next event in that area, and this is where Israel will finally get some breathing room by bearing up their neighbors (nuking Damascus for one). Agree or disagree? I believe there are only two significant wars left in the region. A) The first one is relatively minor when the little horn (Kurdistan? Israel?) takes over the regions of three horns (Israel? Syria? Iraq?) This sets the stage for the antichrist to be falsely regarded as Jewish "Messiah" for extending Jewish territory to the Euphrates. B) The final war is the Ezekiel war, which I believe is also the Joel war and Armageddon. This is when Turkey/Iran/Russia rebel against the antichrist and launch a sudden and succesful attack along with allies from all over the world, against the antichrist's base in Israel. When Jews see that they are losing they repent and turn to the true Messiah Jesus who intervenes in that war at the Second Coming. Those that believe the antichrist will attack Israel at Armageddon don't understand that the antichrist is a Jewish leader, comes to power in Jerusalem, and already controls the "Beautiful Land". The antichrist defends Israel in a great rage, and comes to his end in Israel at the time of the resurrection, after hearing alarming reports from the direction of the Gog attack, north and east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted July 7, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted July 7, 2014 He shall enter also into the glorious land (he takes over Israel), and many countries shall be overthrown; but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. (Jordan and Saudi are outside his control) 44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him (right before he dies he is troubled by the Gog attack on Israel); and he shall go forth with great fury to destroy and utterly to sweep away many. 45 And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the sea and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi gdemoss, You said, `I believe that everything about God`s timeline & plan are hidden in plain sight....` What a great thought. I do hope that as I share & we discuss that the Holy Spirit will confirm with you or challenge me to my beliefs. So who are the `Big 4,` or the `Quartet of Power,` as the world calls them? They are 1. Britain & USA. 2. Russia. 3 E.U. 4 UN. (No surprises there.) Some people may think China but it is called a `Middle Power.` Now the UN is actually not in the same class as the others as they control it. So we have 3 Super Powers recognised, in the world today. I thought we may look at each one separately, its history & then see what the contemporary view of Daniel 7 is. Then there will be room to comment etc. I will discuss the first super power, Britain & USA tomorrow. (Aussie time.) Marilyn, I'm reviewing this thread after studying Daniel and other eschatological issues and I just want to make sure you still support this line of thinking from Daniel 7: 1. Lion-uk and USA 2, bear- Russia 3. Leopard- EU 4. ?- UN And why are you convinced it is not this: 1. Contemporary Iraq 2. Contemporary Iran 3. Contemporary Turkey/Syria 4. Contemporary 10 nation Islamic nations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macs Son Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 261 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2014 If God wanted to write a history book He would have. Everything in the bible points to Jesus, not to superpowers like China or Russia. We tend to complicate things.I think God dis write a history book, it's His Story.I don't think the U.S. is in Revelation which probably doesn't bode well for us. Nations Rise and Fall but our God reigns eternal.In Christ, Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Spock, Glad to pick up this theme again. 1. Lion (& Eagles wings) - UK & USA 2. Bear - Russia 3. Leopard - EU 4. Islamic Federation. Now I am not sure what the next 1 - 4 are all about. What are you saying there? (Iraq, Iran, Turkey/Syria, Islamic nations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hi Spock, Glad to pick up this theme again. 1. Lion (& Eagles wings) - UK & USA 2. Bear - Russia 3. Leopard - EU 4. Islamic Federation. Now I am not sure what the next 1 - 4 are all about. What are you saying there? (Iraq, Iran, Turkey/Syria, Islamic nations) Is it possible the four animals from Daniel 7 could represent the second four I listed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 18, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hi Spock, I only see the Super Powers as per Dan. 7. I don`t understand where you get these other ones from scripture. Can you enlighten me a bit more to you thinking. please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hi Spock, I only see the Super Powers as per Dan. 7. I don`t understand where you get these other ones from scripture. Can you enlighten me a bit more to you thinking. please? Sure.. 1. Lion = Babylon= today Iraq 2. Bear= Persia= today Iran 3. Leopard= Greece= today Syria and turkey 4. Iron teeth beast with ten horns= ?= today possibly 10 Islamic nations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 18, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 So Spock, You would see the formation of the Global Government as - 10 Islamic Kings over - The Mouth - Iraq The Body - Syria & Turkey The Feet - Iran Sounds a bit weird to me. Sorry friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2014 So Spock, You would see the formation of the Global Government as - 10 Islamic Kings over - The Mouth - Iraq The Body - Syria & Turkey The Feet - Iran Sounds a bit weird to me. Sorry friend. No, no,no..... Chapter 2 is history. Past tense Chapter 7 is contemporary. Present tense. I'm still working on this, just throwing out thoughts. The 4th beast is still my biggest problem because no animal associated with them. Just ten horns and they are fierce. Is it possible this could be united Islam? They finally got together to join up and have become 10 nations who control a lot of the oil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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