Can Only the Elect Accept God and be saved ?

[justfaith]

Ephesians 1:4-7King James Version (KJV)

 

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

 

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

 

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

[Guest shiloh357]

 

Ephesians 1:4-7King James Version (KJV)

 

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

 

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

 

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

 

This not talking about God choosing who will or will not be saved.   You highlighted part of a verse and ignored the last half.  It says we were chosen in him bdfore the found of the world to be holy and blameless before Him in love.  It is not talking about who will or will not be saved.  It is talking about what God has chosen or predestined for those who are saved.

[CurtisCWilson]

 

Ephesians 1:4-7King James Version (KJV)

 

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

 

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

 

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

 

Justfaith, The Lord God already knows every single person who will accept his Son as their saviour even before he created the worlds. This was according to his "foreknowledge" and those whom he already knew he predestined to be his elec. This scripture tells us just that......

 

2Ti 1:8  Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 

2Ti 1:9  Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 

 

Your salvation did not happen on a certain day in history, it happened before the world began!! There is nothing you can do without the Lord knowing what it is before you do it.

God's elect are those to whom he foreknew would receive Jesus as their saviour in which he predestined them to be holy and without blame before him in love.

[Guest]

2 Timothy 1:8  Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 

 

2 Timothy 1:9  Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 

 

Your salvation did not happen on a certain day in history, it happened before the world began!! There is nothing you can do without the Lord knowing what it is before you do it.

 

God's elect are those to whom he foreknew would receive Jesus as their saviour in which he predestined them to be holy and without blame before him in love.

 

 

Whosoever

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

Will

 

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

 

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 20:16-17

[justfaith]

 

 

Ephesians 1:4-7King James Version (KJV)

 

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

 

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

 

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

 

This not talking about God choosing who will or will not be saved.   You highlighted part of a verse and ignored the last half.  It says we were chosen in him bdfore the found of the world to be holy and blameless before Him in love.  It is not talking about who will or will not be saved.  It is talking about what God has chosen or predestined for those who are saved.

 

What are your thoughts on Jeremiahand Essau as regards to salvation   ? 

Edited August 31, 2014 by justfaith

[justfaith]

was it  predetermined, by God the Father, that Jesus would come into the world, before the creation of the world, and also was predestined for Jesus to be slain (crucified):?

Edited August 31, 2014 by justfaith

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

Ephesians 1:4-7King James Version (KJV)

 

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

 

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

 

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

 

This not talking about God choosing who will or will not be saved.   You highlighted part of a verse and ignored the last half.  It says we were chosen in him bdfore the found of the world to be holy and blameless before Him in love.  It is not talking about who will or will not be saved.  It is talking about what God has chosen or predestined for those who are saved.

 

What are your thoughts on Jeremiahand Essau as regards to salvation   ? 

 

Do you mean Jacob and Esau?

[justfaith]

Romans 9:11-19King James Version (KJV)

 

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

 

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

 

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

 

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

 

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

 

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

 

17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

 

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

 

19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

 

King James Version (KJV)

[Guest shiloh357]

 

Romans 9:11-19King James Version (KJV)

 

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

 

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

 

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

 

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

 

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

 

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

 

17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

 

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

 

19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

 

King James Version (KJV)

 

Well you need to understand that the context there is not about salvation.   The context is about service and God sovereignly choosing to use whom He will for whatever purpose He wills. 

 

Nothing in that passage has anything to do with God choosing to save one person and not saving someone else.

[terraricca]

 

 

Ephesians 1:4-7King James Version (KJV)

 

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

 

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

 

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

 

This not talking about God choosing who will or will not be saved.   You highlighted part of a verse and ignored the last half.  It says we were chosen in him bdfore the found of the world to be holy and blameless before Him in love.  It is not talking about who will or will not be saved.  It is talking about what God has chosen or predestined for those who are saved.

 

hi shiloh357

 

i went through to a few of your quotes and i am impressed with your answers ,for i found them to be true , good work ,i will go and read more of your quotes ,thanks