The Burden of the Lord?

[tsth]

Jeremiah 23

33 And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD. 34 And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the LORD, I will even punish that man and his house. 35 Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken? 36 And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God. 37 Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken? 38 But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD; 39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence: 40 And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.

Has anyone studied this? Does anyone have an understanding of this? These passages are laid upon my heart to understand. If not, please pray for me to be given understanding. The focal point being the word "burden" and its meaning.

Thank you very much.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Dad Ernie]

Has anyone studied this?  Does anyone have an understanding of this?  These passages are laid upon my heart to understand.  If not, please pray for me to be given understanding.  The focal point being the word "burden" and its meaning.

Greetings tsth,

The following is from:

Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible

Jer 23:33 - What is the burden--play on the double sense of the Hebrew: an oracle and a burden. They scoffingly ask, Has he got any new burden (burdensome oracle: for all his prophecies are disasters) to announce (Mal_1:1)? Jeremiah indignantly repeats their own question, Do you ask, What burden? This, then, it is, "I will forsake you." My word is burdensome in your eyes, and you long to be rid if it. You shall get your wish. There will be no more prophecy: I will forsake you, and that will be a far worse "burden" to you.

The following is from:

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible

Jer 23:33 - What is - The false prophets, and corrupt priests, would ordinarily mock the true prophets; and ask them what was the burden of the Lord.

Hope that helps.

Dad Ernie

[tsth]

Yes DadErnie, it does. Thank you. I am going to have more questions though in the morning, as there is something more there, that I can't quite grasp.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[tsth]

Dear Dad Ernie,

You may have already come across this in your search yesterday. But I wanted to share this with you. Another friend of mine in the Lord, was also asked to pray and share what she knew about that particular passage. Here is what she sent me. Without you knowing me personally, you couldn't know the impact of it, but even in regard to what has been laid upon my heart in terms of topics here, this was SO relevant:

And Dave, if you happen to read this, I thought of the study of the cup in regard to the 2nd set of bolded passages below.

Suzanne,

I went back and read those passages in Jeremiah again and it appeared to be Gods Word,  Strong's defines it as utterance among other things. (burden in KJV).

Then I went out to crosswalk.com to see what commentaries I could find.  There were several but this one from McHenry's Complete was very interesting.  It indicates that people, including priests and prophets were making light of Gods Word hence mocking Him or scoffing at the power and weight of The Word from the LORD.  It makes sense to me and is very relevent to today.  Maybe this is the message you were to hear from Him.

I copied and pasted that commentary for your convenience.  Just a thought.  Let me know what you think.

Verses 33-40 The profaneness of the people, with that of the priests and prophets, is here reproved in a particular instance, which may seem of small moment in comparison of their greater crimes; but profaneness in common discourse, and the debauching of the language of a nation, being a notorious evidence of the prevalency of wickedness in it, we are not to think it strange that this matter was so largely and warmly insisted upon here. Observe, I. The sin here charged upon them is bantering God

[Dad Ernie]

You may have already come across this in your search yesterday.  But I wanted to share this with you.  Another friend of mine in the Lord, was also asked to pray and share what she knew about that particular passage.  Here is what she sent me.  Without you knowing me personally, you couldn't know the impact of it, but even in regard to what has been laid upon my heart in terms of topics here, this was SO relevant:

Greetings TSTH,

Often times, in fact most of the time, to understand a particular word or phrase, after I have examined it under a microscope, as was done in the commentary, for which I thank you, I look to the real-life events and where I might see it in action. I see the "burden of the Lord" in at least these places:

Luke 19:41-42 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, 42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.

Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

Rev 10:9-10 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[tsth]

Yes, that last one is the one that I most relate to in terms of today and my personal study and time with the Lord. I remember the earlier days in the Word in comparision to these, it was quite different. All is VERY different now DE, very different.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Guest idied2]

Jeremiah 23

33 And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD. 34 And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the LORD, I will even punish that man and his house. 35 Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken? 36 And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God. 37 Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken? 38 But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD; 39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence: 40 And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.

Has anyone studied this?  Does anyone have an understanding of this?  These passages are laid upon my heart to understand.  If not, please pray for me to be given understanding.  The focal point being the word "burden" and its meaning.

Thank you very much.

In His Love,

Suzanne

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Hello Suzanne

This scripture is translated just fine. It is about a people become so blinded that their speech betrays them. Asking the prophet of the LORD what is the burden that the LORD will lay on us today. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Their very essence was not the love that the LORD wanted from them. That if HE spoke it was a burden to them. But it is not to much different than the betrayal of speach that is common today such as the statement. Christ in my life GOD in my life. As if anyone of us being evil created life and then made the way that CHRIST and GOD could enter it. Instead the new testament explains how we can give up the flesh and enter into HIM.

In CHRIST JESUS

[Guest yod]

Whenever "burden" is used in context with the Lord or a prophet, it is simply saying that it is weighing heavy on their heart....in other words He is "very passionate" about this subject.

That's my own opinion but I think it's accurate.

[tsth]

Dear yod,

In those particular passages, I think that is why it became so confusing to me, because I had the same understanding that you mention. But, having said that, as I read it, I really felt in my spirit that the Lord was correcting me, in saying that what I initially wanted to believe about the word "burden, as something that was troubling or making one sad," was not really the implication here at all.

I just felt in spirit that I didn't have a correct understanding, and that I needed to. I took a look at the usage of the word "burden" in the Scriptures, the context of Scriptures around their use. There were really about 3 different ways the word was used. It seems as if 1 was in Deut. I believe. The burden was used to describe, the different services that the different tribes performed in the travels through the desert, and the setting up and taking down of the temple, and their various services that were required of them specifically by God in their worship of Him.

The 2nd term for burden seemed to be "oracle" or Word of instruction or command given by God to the people, whether good or bad, it was the specific speaking or command by God to the people.

The 3rd term was what was mentioned in the summary sent to me by my friend, it was in regard to the testimony given by a specific man/prophet, to tell of the coming wrath/judgment, and this burden was truly a "burden" to the people, as it made them angry/uncomfortable, and their desire was not to hear of it. Therefore it brought them to mock the prophet who spoke it, thereby the passages reveal a mocking by the people, of God's wrath, and He instructs the prophet to understand that there WILL BE A BURDEN OF THE LORD, and it will be in drastic response to their mocking.

But, in regard to your post, that was what my initial thoughts were to on the matter, and yet, I knew that there was something more there that I was missing.

My prayer for understanding has been answered.

Thank you all.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Matthitjah]

Sister Suzanne,

I just caught this post?

This whole thing reminded me of this Scripture;

2Ch

Edited January 17, 2005 by Dr. Luke