WAR

[Guest Jahchild]

War in my opinion is wrong. I disagree with anyone saying that its necessary or okay, simply because the Lord Jesus was against it.

Basically, my qestion is: do any of you agree with the wars America or any other country for that matter have started , or partaken in( In the name of God)?

Jesus taught that if someone hits you on the right cheek( cant remember exactly which cheek comes first...sorry...but you all know the scripture) we are to turn to them the other also( not hit them back), he also taught us that we should LOVE our ENEMIES and PRAY for those who persecute us (not go to war with them). The bible also teaches that our struggle isnt against the flesh but against the powers of darkness in the SPIRITUAL REALM. (forgive me for not quoting, but all should remember the actual scriptures i'm talking about. If someone wants me to give the actual ref. I'll post it aswell.)

So again, tell me, where does this idea of going to war in the name of God come from?

[Ovedya]

Are you a Rastafarian by any chance?

[apothanein kerdos]

So stopping the muder of 12 million people was not justifiable? If Jesus is against war, why did He support it in the Old Testament? Did God's character change?

[Constant]

I for one do not like war but being in the military it is always a possibility that I will be called into war. I will go to battle at anytime to protect the people of a country who needs it. Like in Iraq, with the innocent people dealing with the destructive gorillas. I would peotect anyone who deserves it and theses people do. No one should live in fear in their own country. So, war in itself stinks but at this time, this war and what our purpose is over there, I think war is necessary.

Allison

[Big Steve]

War is not pleasant, but it is sometimes necessary. I know firsthand what it is like to be in combat. As ugly as it is, I also saw the atrocities that saddam hussein committed against his own people, and it was necassary he be stopped and removed from power. he is an evil man.

We sometimes have to take on the cause of others, because it is the right and just thing to do.

[Guest Christian Counselor]

Your question,where does the idea of going to war in the name of God,which is a consistent claim of Muslim terrorists,come from,does have an answer.It comes from Satan.Jesus taught love,forgiveness and peace.Those who advocate war,teach hate,retaliation and war.AT NO TIME DID JESUS EVER AUTHORIZE WAR FOR ANY PURPOSE OR REASON. The reason is that that He was sent to earth to deliver the new testament which replaced the legalism of the old testament with an emphasis on love and forgiveness.There are major changes Jesus made in old testament teachings but none more significant than the teachings to love your enemy and to do good to those who hate us which replaced the "an eye for an eye" teaching.

Someone mentioned that Jesus drove the hypocrites out of the temple.What does that have to do with war?We should drive the hypocrites out of our churches!Romans 13:4 refers to punishment for criminals but it makes absolutely no reference to war.Christians are obligated to oppose evil through love,good works and prayer asking for God's protection.

The philosophy that guides those who support war is one of hate and unforgiveness driving them to retaliate..This is the biblical teaching on that,"IF YOU DO NOT FORGIVE,NEITHER WILL YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN FORGIVE YOUR SINS."

[Guest mousiegurl69]

The subject of war is a touchy one by the look of postings here. At no time is war a good thing but war is upon you whether you would risk it or not. We are in a spiritual battle here trying to bring souls to Christ. In praying against an evil spirit is that not a type of warfare?? In the old testament it's well documented that God saw the victory in war and he himself told the plans to those who would be his hands. Anytime his people went to war without him they lost, and when he directed them they won. Now a days one would argue that war is not needed. If you have a leader like hitler how do you suppose you would reach him? How many people must die before you'd take a stand and fight back? Do such leaders exist today? Sure they do!! When do you decide it's time to fight back? Sometimes this warfare requires the loss of life, to save the lives of those being persecuted unfairly.

I'm all for finding a peacful solution but I know there are people out there you just can't reason with.

God Bless

Mousiegurl

[Guest yod]

Jahchild,Feb 7 2005, 09:21 PM]

War in my opinion is wrong. I disagree with anyone saying that its necessary or okay, simply because the Lord Jesus was against it.

Jesus never commented about war except to say they would happen....I don't know what you are referring to?

Basically, my qestion is: do any of you agree with the wars America or any other country for that matter have started , or partaken in( In the name of God)?

has America ever done anything "in the name of God"????

When?

Jesus taught that if someone hits you on the right cheek( cant remember exactly which cheek comes first...sorry...but you all know the scripture) we are to turn to them the other also( not hit them back), he also taught us that we should LOVE our ENEMIES and PRAY for those who persecute us (not go to war with them).

That is a bad interpretation and a worse application.

Yeshua was teaching about individual responsibility...not government

So again, tell me, where does this idea of going to war in the name of God come from?

From you evidently

[Ovedya]

Post-and-runner?