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3 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:
Jewish
adjective
relating to, associated with, or denoting Jews or Judaism.
 
Please start using the dictionary then you will stop being so confusing. 

See my above post.  Paul claims to still remain a Jew, but his faith changed. Please, read scripture and put aside your worldly definitions.   You are just digging a deep hole for yourself.

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4 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

I actually agree with you on some of his teaching as being somewhat unloving but his teaching on the genetics lineages of the descendants of Judah is 100% correct. Not everyone is all bad nor is anyone all good. 

How would you arrive at that conclusion? That his teachings on Judah's genetic lineages is correct?

 

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Just now, OneLight said:

Did you notice where you definition denotes that it is their tradition?  This does not mean that those of this bloodline will never find the truth.  Jesus was of the Jewish lineage, as were all the apostles, and many of the early church.  They were still Jewish, but their faith changed.

Yes but being Jewish is to say that you are of the tribe of Judah not the nation of Israel, these are two different things. The former being a blood line (which doesn't exist anyway) and the later being an ideology which has nothing to do with a blood at all. 

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2 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

In that case it was another shame if it wasn't. 

No, a blessing.  See how hard it is to get you to see the truth?  We are not of the practice of encouraging others to follow a false religion only to have to correct them later.

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2 minutes ago, OneLight said:

See my above post.  Paul claims to still remain a Jew, but his faith changed. Please, read scripture and put aside your worldly definitions.   You are just digging a deep hole for yourself.

Yes back then, 2000 years ago Paul could claim that but it is no longer true for two reasons. One is the genetic aspect that you are ignoring (the video) and two because Paul goes on to explain that genealogies are useless. 

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1 minute ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Yes but being Jewish is to say that you are of the tribe of Judah not the nation of Israel, these are two different things. The former being a blood line (which doesn't exist anyway) and the later being an ideology which has nothing to do with a blood at all. 

There are 12 tribes mention in Revelation, which is how this whole conversation began.  One is missing.  The tribe of Dan.

God is calling all His people back to Israel as spoken of in the Prophets. 

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Just now, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Yes back then, 2000 years ago Paul could claim that but it is no longer true for two reasons. One is the genetic aspect that you are ignoring (the video) and two because Paul goes on to explain that genealogies are useless. 

Scripture never changes.  Men do.  Just because a man tries to disprove scripture, and has followers, does not make it true.

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3 minutes ago, Radiant_Owl said:

How would you arrive at that conclusion? That his teachings on Judah's genetic lineages is correct?

 

I posted a video but One light deleted it. Just google: 

Everyone is descendant of Jews - Pastor Steven Anderson

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4 minutes ago, OneLight said:

No, a blessing.  See how hard it is to get you to see the truth?  We are not of the practice of encouraging others to follow a false religion only to have to correct them later.

How would you know, you ignored the teachings and therefore know nothing about it. 

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2 minutes ago, OneLight said:

There are 12 tribes mention in Revelation, which is how this whole conversation began.  One is missing.  The tribe of Dan.

God is calling all His people back to Israel as spoken of in the Prophets. 

And that's where you're going wrong because you are ignoring the fact that there are no longer Jewish people who are descended from the tribes but instead everyone has Jewish genes.    

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