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Many on here probably know this already. I did not know this until recently. I was under the impression that Jesus alone would return to put Satan away at his first coming. I have since learnt that the Bible teaches a first and second coming of God the Father to the Earth?

In Dan. 7:18-22 we have the fact that the Ancient of Days was coming to destroy the Antichrist. The Ancient of Days and the Son of man are two different persons, as proven in Dan. 7:9-14.

If the Ancient of Days is not the Son of man, then He must be the Father. If He is the Father, then the Father is coming to the Earth when Christ comes.

This is also proven in Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:11-13. We call this the first coming of the Father to the Earth to fulfill a mission. The Second Coming of the Father is at the end of the Millennium when the New Jerusalem, the capital city of God, comes from Heaven to the Earth to be among men forever, as stated in Rev. 21:1-21. This is the second time the Father is pictured in Scripture as coming to the Earth to fulfill a mission. This time He will be forever among men; and this planet, Earth, will be the site of His capital forever.

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39 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

In Dan. 7:18-22 we have the fact that the Ancient of Days was coming to destroy the Antichrist. ...  If the Ancient of Days is not the Son of man, then He must be the Father. If He is the Father, then the Father is coming to the Earth when Christ comes. This is also proven in Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:11-13.

Well let's examine those Scriptures and see if this is really true.

I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. (Dan 7:21,22).

This could be a reference to God the Father, but all the other Scriptures point to the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and the Son of Man.

And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.. And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. (Zech 14:5,9)

This is a reference to the Lord Jesus Christ, as seen in Rev 1:7 (“they also which pierced Him”) and Rev 19:16, where He is called King of kings, and LORD of lords.

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.  And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. (Dan 7:13,14).

When you compare Zech 14:9 with this passage, it is clear that the Son of Man is also King over all the earth, therefore He is the one LORD (YHWH) and His name one. This is not a reference to the Father.

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. (Titus 2:11-14)

When you read this through to verse 14, the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ is the same one “who gave Himself for us”. There is no reference to the Father in this passage.

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