fayec Posted March 27, 2016 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 27, 2016 Revelation 13 says that the beast is "a man". Most, if not all Christians today, believe that "a man" is a reference to one individual man. But, throughout the prophetic scriptures of Daniel and Revelation, the beast or man of lawlessness is symbolized as that of "the ten horns". Therefore, could it be that the beast is a particular race/nationality of man instead of one individual man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fayec Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) >>>Your content will need to be approved by a moderator.<<< LOL, How long should I wait for approval? Edited March 28, 2016 by fayec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 28, 2016 23 hours ago, fayec said: Revelation 13 says that the beast is "a man". Most, if not all Christians today, believe that "a man" is a reference to one individual man. But, throughout the prophetic scriptures of Daniel and Revelation, the beast or man of lawlessness is symbolized as that of "the ten horns". Therefore, could it be that the beast is a particular race/nationality of man instead of one individual man? no. the last 30 years has introduced a lot of confusion instead of clarity to this . go back further, look in foxes book of martyrs, and other testimonies through the centuries. the beast used to be clearly known. not here. not today. not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fayec Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 hour ago, simplejeff said: no. the last 30 years has introduced a lot of confusion instead of clarity to this . go back further, look in foxes book of martyrs, and other testimonies through the centuries. the beast used to be clearly known. not here. not today. not anymore. >>>the beast used to be clearly known. not here. not today. not anymore.<<< Who was he "clearly known" as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,117 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 3/27/2016 at 5:49 AM, fayec said: Revelation 13 says that the beast is "a man". Most, if not all Christians today, believe that "a man" is a reference to one individual man. But, throughout the prophetic scriptures of Daniel and Revelation, the beast or man of lawlessness is symbolized as that of "the ten horns". Therefore, could it be that the beast is a particular race/nationality of man instead of one individual man? A bit of misunderstanding here. First, Rev. 13 nowhere calls the Beast a man. Second, your presume that the Beast and the Man of Sin/Lawlessness are the same person, which Scripture nowhere states. The latter is a man, certainly; but the Beast ascends out of the Abyss (Rev. 11:7; 17:8), where the fallen angels were cast. 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fayec Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, WilliamL said: A bit of misunderstanding here. First, Rev. 13 nowhere calls the Beast a man. Second, your presume that the Beast and the Man of Sin/Lawlessness are the same person, which Scripture nowhere states. The latter is a man, certainly; but the Beast ascends out of the Abyss (Rev. 11:7; 17:8), where the fallen angels were cast. 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6 Actually there are 2 end-time "beasts" spoken of in Revelation; one being the scarlet-coloured beast called Babylon the great, AND, the man of lawlessness (symbolized as "the ten horns") upon Babylon the great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted March 28, 2016 6 hours ago, fayec said: LOL, How long should I wait for approval? as long as it takes, there are only a handful of people who can do this, and none of them are here 24/7. The volunteer their time here and have real lives, so be patient, I would say don't panic if it is not approved within 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,117 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted March 28, 2016 5 hours ago, fayec said: Actually there are 2 end-time "beasts" spoken of in Revelation; TRUE one being the scarlet-coloured beast called Babylon the great, FALSE: BABYLON THE GREAT RIDES THE BEAST, SHE IS NOT THE BEAST, AND, the man of lawlessness (symbolized as "the ten horns") upon Babylon the great. FALSE: NO SCRIPTURE SAYS ANY SUCH THING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted March 28, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 27/03/2016 at 5:49 AM, fayec said: Revelation 13 says that the beast is "a man". Correct. And the "little horn" of Daniel is the King of Fierce Countenance, the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Antichrist, the Beast, who is to come in the future, after the Abomination of Desolation is set up in the third Temple at Jerusalem. Daniel, Revelation, the Olivet Discourse, and 2 Thessalonians 2, must all be tied together. This man will call himself Christ and God, and many will believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted March 29, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,117 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted March 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Ezra said: On 3/27/2016 at 5:49 AM, fayec said: Revelation 13 says that the beast is "a man". Correct. Just a reminder: 10 hours ago, WilliamL said: A bit of misunderstanding here. ... Rev. 13 nowhere calls the Beast a man. Men don't have 7 heads: never happened, never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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