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    Sailing on dry land, photography, artistic painting. decorative concrete, craftmanship in all things, things with motors, working with my hands, Worthy Ministries, the church I attend, my friends and family, the church universal, Bible study, fossils. marine aquariums, computers, building websites, politics a little, but especially my Lord and Savior, Jesus the Christ, Creator of the universe. These are a few of my favorite things. I enjoy free will, and what I believe about it is:

    You are free to choose to do what you want to do,
    but you are not free to choose what it is, that you want to do,
    nor are you necessarily able, to do what you choose to do!

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  1. Michael's relationship to the middle of the week

    Thanks Steve, Personally I do not think it is important for us to know what/who restrains, that certainly is not the point of Paul's comments, where he is just pointing out he already told them enough information that they should have known that is is not possible for the day of the Lord to have arrived since they were not even yet to the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week. Glancing over the things you have said in this thread, I see only one thing that MIGHT be a faulty conclusion or oversight. You said: I am not saying that your conclusions are wrong, but the "therefore" in the above quote, is not justifiable in my mind, at least based on the idea alone, that the church is not appointed unto wrath. It strikes me that the wrath in that verse (1 Thess 5:9) is contrasted with it's alternative, that the church is appointed unto, that being the obtaining of salvation. It seems to me that that might be saying in essence that some are appointed unto eternal torment, while others are appointed to salvation from it. Also, to be protected from God's wrath, if that was meant to apply to God's wrath upon the earth dwellers, the church does not need to be removed physically. God is perfectly capable of protecting His chosen, in the midst of problems, i.e. the plagues of Egypt, the flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, as he can also protect those in danger of the wrath of enemies as in the fiery furnace (Dan 3). In fact a great passage is in Rev 12 where it says: 11 “And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death. 12 “For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.” 13 And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth. 17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. That is such an informative chapter, because in it we see lots of the elements we are discussing in this thread. For example, the dragon is specifically identified as Satan, the woman seems to be Israel (earlier called Jacob in the old Testament), since the dragon is out to get her and she was said to bring forth a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. I cannot help but think that no one other than Jesus, was a male child who is to rule the nations with a rod on iron and who was caught up to God and His throne. We see there 2 times, that half a "week" is mentioned (one thousand two hundred and sixty days and a time and times and half a time). Sort of make you think of half of Daniel's 70th week. Additionally we see that it is not only God who has sufficient power to battle Satan, since in the passage it is Michael an his angels, that toss Satan out of Heaven, contrary to the assertion of that Gotquestions article that Angels4u posted. Is Satan powerful? Sure, but he is not nearly omnipotent, not God's evil counterpart, he is just a created being, like other angels are. So, we see that God can protect people on earth, during that time, as He does the Jews (apparently) who flee into the wilderness (verse 6). While this may well be a time of Jacobs trouble, that our pre-trib friends like to point out, it is said here, that it is Jews (at least some) as I understand this, who are given protection. By contrast, there are others of this description of children of the woman. They are the ones who are NOT protected in the wilderness, instead, the dragon pursues them in his anger. They are described as the ones who hold to the testimony of Jesus. That has to be either messianic Jews, or Christians, but I see no difference, since there is neither Jew nor Greek (Gal 3:28) in Christ. I do not really understand this fascination with hoping to be in a pre-trib rapture, somehow imagining that we will not suffer persection as Christians have over much of the world for 2000 years. What happened to taking up our cross, dieing to self daily, servants not being above their master, promises of tribulation and in fact 2 Tim 3:12 states specifically: "Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted." If we want to escape the rewards of martyrs, the perfection and purification that troubles bring, I think that speaks somewhat to the worldy perspective of this life, instead of having our eyes fixed on eternity, where looking back we will see that this was an insignificat blink of the eye. 16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. Romans 8 2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. 4 And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. James 1 12 “Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold. 13“But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. Matt 24 I am afraid that the (western especially) Church has become so fearful, lazy, and uncommitted, that we will be fortunate indeed, if we are not seen as lukewarm. My blessed hope, is not in a pre-trib rapture, it is in my savior Who will return in glory, to change me into His likeness, and forever be with Him. Sorry, got carried away making a small point whether the "therefore" in your comment necesarrily leads to a conclusion of removal, that is all I meant to address. Blessings to you!
  2. Daily Reading 114 If you prefer, you can look up the following verses in your own Bible, or by whatever means and in whichever version you choose. Acts 10:1-33 Joshua 7-8 Job 24 Audio 5:49 Audio 4:58 Audio 2:56 The above verse addresses are linked to Bible Gateway. That is an easy way to read (or listen to) the Bible verses, and choose your version. Personally, I prefer written, that way I can go at my own pace, and think about it, before moving on. Nothing wrong with doing either or both. The Bible says faith comes by hearing. See the picture below to get an idea of what to expect if you follow the above links. Note: The audio will not play the exact verses, it will play the whole chapters, in which the verses exist. Thank you Lord for making the your word so accessible for us in these times. Amen
  3. Daily Reading 113 If you prefer, you can look up the following verses in your own Bible, or by whatever means and in whichever version you choose. Acts 9:26-43 Joshua 5:2-6:27 Job 23 Audio 6:05 Audio 2:38 Audio 1:48 The above verse addresses are linked to Bible Gateway. That is an easy way to read (or listen to) the Bible verses, and choose your version. Personally, I prefer written, that way I can go at my own pace, and think about it, before moving on. Nothing wrong with doing either or both. The Bible says faith comes by hearing. See the picture below to get an idea of what to expect if you follow the above links. Note: The audio will not play the exact verses, it will play the whole chapters, in which the verses exist. Thank you Lord for making the your word so accessible for us in these times. Amen
  4. by the way, Haley, there are two different systems of chat here, and even I cannot explain them, the normal place is at

    https://www.worthychristianforums.com/pages/worthy-christian-chat/

  5. Daily Reading 112 If you prefer, you can look up the following verses in your own Bible, or by whatever means and in whichever version you choose. Acts 9:1-25 Joshua 3:1-5:1 Job 22 Audio 6:05 Audio 2:45 Audio 2:54 The above verse addresses are linked to Bible Gateway. That is an easy way to read (or listen to) the Bible verses, and choose your version. Personally, I prefer written, that way I can go at my own pace, and think about it, before moving on. Nothing wrong with doing either or both. The Bible says faith comes by hearing. See the picture below to get an idea of what to expect if you follow the above links. Note: The audio will not play the exact verses, it will play the whole chapters, in which the verses exist. Thank you Lord for making the your word so accessible for us in these times. Amen
  6. Daily Reading 111 If you prefer, you can look up the following verses in your own Bible, or by whatever means and in whichever version you choose. Acts 8:26-40 Joshua 1-2 Job 21 Audio 5:10 Audio 3:11 Audio 3:05 The above verse addresses are linked to Bible Gateway. That is an easy way to read (or listen to) the Bible verses, and choose your version. Personally, I prefer written, that way I can go at my own pace, and think about it, before moving on. Nothing wrong with doing either or both. The Bible says faith comes by hearing. See the picture below to get an idea of what to expect if you follow the above links. Note: The audio will not play the exact verses, it will play the whole chapters, in which the verses exist. Thank you Lord for making the your word so accessible for us in these times. Amen
  7. Michael's relationship to the middle of the week

    Last time I had an opinion on the topic, I also voted for Michael, lol. Then I made a video about it:
  8. Daily Reading 110 If you prefer, you can look up the following verses in your own Bible, or by whatever means and in whichever version you choose. Acts 8:1b-25 Deuteronomy 33-34 Job 20 Audio 5:10 Audio 4:43 Audio 2:52 The above verse addresses are linked to Bible Gateway. That is an easy way to read (or listen to) the Bible verses, and choose your version. Personally, I prefer written, that way I can go at my own pace, and think about it, before moving on. Nothing wrong with doing either or both. The Bible says faith comes by hearing. See the picture below to get an idea of what to expect if you follow the above links. Note: The audio will not play the exact verses, it will play the whole chapters, in which the verses exist. Thank you Lord for making the your word so accessible for us in these times. Amen
  9. How and why Trump was elected.

    Maybe so, I hate to think what a no holds barred political section would be like, maybe a place for people, who managed to earn there way to the political section, then get thrown out, and sentenced to eternity is the new section only, lol.
  10. How and why Trump was elected.

    I think the point is well made, not sure though, how this qualifies as U.S. News!
  11. I see my testimony and song was deleted...

    I do not know what is going on here myself, I know I have not deleted it. You are probably correct though, that this post will get deleted or moved or hidden or something ejected. This post, has nothing to do, with Apologetics. When posts are placed in areas of the forum where they to not belong, then they are often just removed. Reporting your discontent about how you are being treated, has nothing to do with defending the gospel or the Bible, or doctrine etc. This post, appear to me to have several other purposes though, such as using Worthy Forums, to promote your music trying to circumvent the policies of the forum trying to damage the administrations reputation using you complaint to make you out as a martyr You might want to consider, reading the terms of service you agreed to when you joined, which can be found at https://www.worthychristianforums.com/terms and then sticking to them. Look around the site, see how it is set up, and post things in places they are set up for. One of the things that we discourage, is posting links to other sites, which may have content that would violate our terms of service or would expose our users to things they might not want to visit. We do not have the resources to visit every link, or read every post to evaluate content, we expect our users to me sensible, mature, and self-policing of the things they agreed to in the terms of service. If you want to be a successful part of this community, then adhere by the rules and policies of it. If you want to give your testimony, there is an area for that, and post your testimony in that. Make sure that the content of that, also complies with the terms of service. While a testimony should be true, it is about glorifying God, not glorifying self. As is said, it should be true, but that does not mean that it needs to detail everything that is true. For example, a person can say that they "came out of a life of sin", which is fine. However, is such a person were a former prostitute, we do not need to know all of the specifics of that business, catch my drift? As I said, I do not know what post(s) of yours that you say were deleted contained, but I am guessing that likely, it was due to some problem, related to things I have discussed here. In the future, please refrain from impugning the work of those charged with maintaining order on the forums, and take you complaints to them, instead of airing your gripes in public, and trying t get others to work around our system, by directing them toward external sites, because of your phobias about your posts and their imminent deletion. Thanks
  12. new brother from india

    Welcome to Worthy chinnam!
  13. Daily Reading 109 If you prefer, you can look up the following verses in your own Bible, or by whatever means and in whichever version you choose. Acts 7:23-8:1a Deuteronomy 31-32 Job 19 Audio 8:49 Audio 4:57 Audio 2:48 The above verse addresses are linked to Bible Gateway. That is an easy way to read (or listen to) the Bible verses, and choose your version. Personally, I prefer written, that way I can go at my own pace, and think about it, before moving on. Nothing wrong with doing either or both. The Bible says faith comes by hearing. See the picture below to get an idea of what to expect if you follow the above links. Note: The audio will not play the exact verses, it will play the whole chapters, in which the verses exist. Thank you Lord for making the your word so accessible for us in these times. Amen
  14. Daily Reading 108 If you prefer, you can look up the following verses in your own Bible, or by whatever means and in whichever version you choose. Acts 7:1-22 Deuteronomy 29-30 Job 18 Audio 8:49 Audio 4:14 Audio 1:54 The above verse addresses are linked to Bible Gateway. That is an easy way to read (or listen to) the Bible verses, and choose your version. Personally, I prefer written, that way I can go at my own pace, and think about it, before moving on. Nothing wrong with doing either or both. The Bible says faith comes by hearing. See the picture below to get an idea of what to expect if you follow the above links. Note: The audio will not play the exact verses, it will play the whole chapters, in which the verses exist. Thank you Lord for making the your word so accessible for us in these times. Amen
  15. I'm not a spammer

    yes, it counts
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