ZacharyB Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 410 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2016 John 14:15-23, NLT 15 “If you love me, obey my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you. 17 He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn’t looking for him and doesn’t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you. 18 No, I will not abandon you as orphans — I will come to you (as the Holy Spirit). 19 Soon the world will no longer see me, but you will see me. Since I live, you also will live. 20 When I am raised to life again, you will know that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” 22 Judas (not Judas Iscariot, but the other disciple with that name) said to him, “Lord, why are you going to reveal yourself only to us and not to the world at large?” 23 Jesus replied, “All who love me will do what I say. My Father will love them, and we will come and make our home with each of them. 24 Anyone who doesn’t love me will not obey me. And remember, my words are not my own. What I am telling you is from the Father who sent me.” The above passage teaches us all of the following truths … • 2 wonderful blessings are available to you (v.16) the Holy Spirit to be given to you the Holy Spirit to never leave you • 2 conditions for the Father to give you the blessings above (v.15) loving Jesus obeying Jesus’ commandments The KEY to the whole passage is the very first verse (v.15). • 3 conditions for Jesus loving you and revealing Himself to you (v.21) accepting Jesus’ commandments obeying Jesus’ commandments loving Jesus • 2 conditions for the Father to love you (v.21, v.23) loving Jesus doing what Jesus says • 1 condition for doing what Jesus says (v.23) loving Jesus • 2 conditions for the Trinity to live inside of you (v.23) loving Jesus doing what Jesus says I've been saying for years: "If you have One, you have all Three." John 15:10, NLT 10 “When you obey my commandments, you remain in my love, just as I obey my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.” If you do not obey Jesus’ commandments, you do not remain in Jesus’ love. If you do not remain in Jesus’ love, does the Holy Spirit remain in you? If you do not obey Jesus’ commandments, does the Holy Spirit remain in you? Those who know and love Jesus obey His commandments … 1 John 2:3-5, NLT 3 And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments. 4 If someone claims, “I know God,” but doesn’t obey God’s commandments, that person is a liar and is not living in the truth. 5 But those who obey God’s word truly show how completely they love him. That is how we know we are living in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2016 Blessings Zach I have shared many times that for me personally,the one WORD that stands out to me in the entire Bible is "IF",,,,,your very first quote of that single verse of Scripture is the most important thing that Jesus asks us,,,,,"IF" you LOVE ME......& IF indeed,we do.....that is all it takes FOR....forgiveness,repentance,acceptance,renewal,re-birth,& the INDWELLING.,obedience.......Gods Grace.....IF,you love HIM Love,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 All it take for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2016 32 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said: All it take for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior. Nothing else. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2016 Blessings... It is that simple Brother & Sister but Zachs question is very complex,perhaps because he equates the Indwelling with having access to the Power in Whom we are Indwelled by,Holy Spirit........Yes,by Faith in the knowledge of WHO Jesus is,accepting Him by FAITH....we are Saved by the Grace of God and Jesus comes to live in us,His Holy Spirit,we are "Indwelled"......it is that simple! Zach is talking about walking in Spirit & in Truth,by the Power of the Holy Spirit....I know Saved,Born Again Christians who are certainly Indwelled & yet they have not completely surrendered their flesh with is the biggest hindrance to walking in Spirit,Faith indeed without works is dead..........yet,"IF" we LOVE HIM......then submission is not very difficult.......not everyone can even hear Gods Still Small Voice beckoning to them from within themselves,they are not forsaking something in the heart ....I thinbk Zachs OP is a loaded question......it can confuse many people into believing it is something they must do(works) to Receive Jesus Indweling when the Baptism of the Holy Spirit comes with complete surrender to Jesus Lordship......when you are on your Knees asking"I need you Jesus,forgive me & be my Lord & Savior"......even the demons "believe" but FAITH is alive with Love in the earnest heart With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Rick_Parker said: All it take for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior. Nothing else. That's correct. If it depended on the degree of devotion and obedience, the situation would fluctuate like the temperature in some locations -- almost hourly. Misunderstandings about this important matter are generally because of an incorrect understanding of salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I know by fact that by belief in Jesus and asking Him to come into your life is salvation ... I am experiencing everyday of my life!Rom 8:16 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: KJV If a person doesn't have this witness then they need to examine themselves to see if they are of the faith... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacharyB Posted July 30, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 410 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) On 7/29/2016 at 6:59 AM, kwikphilly said: "IF" you LOVE ME......& "IF" indeed we do.....that is all it takes FOR .... forgiveness, repentance, acceptance, renewal, re-birth, & the INDWELLING, obedience ......... You're wonderful ... and thanks for the gift ... I'll send you my address. Edited July 30, 2016 by ZacharyB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacharyB Posted July 30, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 410 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, kwikphilly said: the Baptism with the Holy Spirit comes with complete surrender to Jesus Lordship This certainly does help tremendously ... for receiving this special baptism of anointing. However, often Jesus gives this baptism for a special ministry that He has for a person, and the complete surrender part is dealt with later (that's the Holy Spirit's job). The "special ministry" may even be something as seemingly-insignificant as being a closeted prayer warrior or intercessor. Edited July 30, 2016 by ZacharyB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted July 30, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted July 30, 2016 22 hours ago, Rick_Parker said: All it take for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior. Nothing else. And as Kwik says to Love Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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