Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov called Trump dangerous marginal.

[Ogner]

17 minutes ago, other one said:

you can quote documents. and I will quote reality.....   there is no way that Russia is going to loose that port and there is no way that they are going to let NATO get that close to their borders.....   and they will kill you if you try.   That is simply reality.

Your country had made a commitment to implement The Budapest Memorandum. 
If you are afraid of Russia and you do not want implementation of the agreements it's your reputation that's at stake and not our.
But why are you helping Russia? What is the benefit?

[other one]

1 minute ago, Ogner said:

Your country had made a commitment to implement The Budapest Memorandum. 
If you are afraid of Russia and you do not want implementation of the agreements it's your reputation that's at stake and not our.
But why are you helping Russia? What is the benefit?

what reputation.....   the progressive leaders of our country have lied to everyone in the world for their own interests....   it was our own government that set up and backed your so called revolution to throw out your government and installed the one you have now....    how about just keeping out of your politics like we said we would.....   or did you want and need our help to overthrow your own government?  

Questions I see...

[Ogner]

28 minutes ago, Behold said:

I appreciate what you just said, however, does a Russian born in The Crimea, when it belonged to Russia, care about any of that?

No.

So, whatever "articles' of the "Ukraine Constitution"you can provide are important to you, but meaningless to a Russian.

How could it be any other way?

USA had commitment to implement The Budapest Memorandum. It must be pretty important to the next US president, don't you think?

 

[Ogner]

13 minutes ago, other one said:

what reputation.....   the progressive leaders of our country have lied to everyone in the world for their own interests....   it was our own government that set up and backed your so called revolution to throw out your government and installed the one you have now....    how about just keeping out of your politics like we said we would.....   or did you want and need our help to overthrow your own government?  

Questions I see...

I do not support your view on this matter.

[Behold]

None of that matters.

And what Trump understands is that Russians wanted to go back home.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Behold

[Ogner]

1 minute ago, Behold said:

None of that matters.

And what Trump understands is that Russians want to go back home.

His understanding of this issue don't require to accept and deal with that.

[Behold]

Just now, Ogner said:

His understanding of this issue don't require to accept and deal with that.

The Crimea is back where it belongs.

Trump understands this, perfectly.

[Ezra]

3 hours ago, Behold said:

Crimea was RUSSIAN, and its people were nearly all Russians.

Crimea was historically TATAR not Russian.  The Tatars were denied their sovereignty by the Soviets and sent into exile, and the plan was to wipe them out. Russia continues to spin history in its own favor, and Putin has only one goal -- re-establish the old Soviet Union. 

Trump had no business telling the world that it is OK for Russia to go back and grab Crimea and Ukraine. That goes against the fundamental principles of the United States. Instead he should have challenged the EU and NATO to ensure that this does not happen.

Looks like Trump's advisers have abandoned him, and he is resuming his off-the-cuff remarks instead of presenting a carefully crafted foreign policy that not only protects the interests of the USA and Canada, but ensures that despots and megalomaniacs are kept in check.  Putin needed to be put on notice by Trump.

[Ogner]

Just now, Behold said:

The Crimea is back where it belongs.

Trump understands this, perfectly.

Are you a Russian?

Cursed be he that removes his neighbor's landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.
(De.27:17)

[Behold]

12 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Crimea was historically TATAR not Russian.  The Tatars were denied their sovereignty by the Soviets and sent into exile, and the plan was to wipe them out. Russia continues to spin history in its own favor, and Putin has only one goal -- re-establish the old Soviet Union. 

Trump had no business telling the world that it is OK for Russia to go back and grab Crimea and Ukraine. That goes against the fundamental principles of the United States. Instead he should have challenged the EU and NATO to ensure that this does not happen.

Looks like Trump's advisers have abandoned him, and he is resuming his off-the-cuff remarks instead of presenting a carefully crafted foreign policy that not only protects the interests of the USA and Canada, but ensures that despots and megalomaniacs are kept in check.  Putin needed to be put on notice by Trump.

And the USA was Native American before they were all slaughtered, or shipped off to "land grants".

So, your point, is pretty much MOOT.

The Crimea has been a part of Russia since 1783, has been a part of the "Russian republic" since 1917, and 2 years ago a referendum on the issue of "reunification with Russia" was held which returned a large majority in support of the proposal.

So, i'll make a deal with you..

You tell me what state you are living in, and i'll tell you what Indian Tribe "owned" that land before they were butchered and forced to give it up to "White Europeans" of some type.

See how it works?

Its easy to see, if you're honest.

Here..... see for yourself...

Edited August 2, 2016 by Behold