Gun control is one thing, but what about bullets?

[Guest shiloh357]

Hillary has expressed a desire to get rid of guns.  If she is elected and I am pretty sure she will be, she will start the process in earnest to disarm America.    She is more radical than Obama.  And unlike Obama, Hillary doesn't care what people think about her.    Hillary is driven by an insatiable lust for power.   She has no love the military or this country.  And every dictator in history has ruled over a disarmed people.

She is a student of Saul Alinsky and she has followed his playbook to the letter and even made some improvements on his ideas.  And she is poised to appoint two radical, liberal activist judged to the SCOTUS making her nearly unstoppable. 

Liberals in our government  have been hampered by one major thing.  Too many Americans who know what freedom looks like and feels like are armed and prepared to defend it and don't want to be "ruled."   And many of those Americans are also in law enforcement and the military.    It's why they are indoctrinating the youth with liberal values that are anti-patriotic, anti-freedom and anti-constitution.   It's why the ONLY religion they will defend is the one religion that hates freedom and hates America (Islam).   It is why they  the have tried to get people to view the government as the source of freedom and liberty and to stop seeing God as the source of those things.  People who view God as the source of freedom are not going to be willing to be ruled by the government.

They are not going to make a law that bans guns in one fell swoop. They are not going to ban guns the minute she is elected, but the process is already in play, they have gotten at least two or three generations of younger people who are on board with the idea that the Constitution is subject to interpretation and even revision, that it is outdated and needs to be rewritten. 

The campaign of Bernie Sanders served an important purpose.  It exposed the very strong support for Democratic Socialism in this country.   That is alarming because the NAZIs were Democratic Socialists.   Hitler was elected Democratically.   If it were not for Hillary's 500 super delegates, Sanders would have won the primaries and the nomination.    But the millions and millions of uber-radical Leftists that supported Bernie demonstrate that this country could easily go down the tubes in just about 20 years or less.   We could lose the right to bear arms if the country keeps going the direction it is going.

 

[FresnoJoe]

On 8/31/2016 at 3:45 PM, Out of the Shadows said:

I have never been a fan of the "why have the law when the criminals won't follow it anyhow" logic....
IF we are going to use this logic for guns, why not for every crime...
and if we are not going to use it for every crime...
why use it for guns...

Would anyone agree if someone said 'We need to get rid of speed limits....
since speeders  are going to speed any way"....

The Law

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment

And Beloved Why Should Our Lawmakers
Ever Follow It Or Any Law
Anyway

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

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Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it. Proverbs 4:23  (New International Version)

And The Laws Of The Land Must Be

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Mark 12:29-30 (King James Bible)

Planted Within The

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:31 (King James Bible)

Heart 

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Love, Your Brother Joe

[The_Patriot21]

On 9/1/2016 at 9:26 AM, Out of the Shadows said:

I buy and sell guns. It is no harder today than it was 8 years ago.  As I said I use guns as an investment option so I buy and sell them accordingly.  I call them meaningless because an executive action carries no weight of law behind it, it is really nothing more than a suggestion by the president. 

Obama and Hillary have said multiple times they want to ban guns. From their own mouths, on live TV. I don't see how anyone can say that isnt their end game, unless of course they have their heads buried in the sand, or just don't watch the news.

 

As far as anyone claiming obamas executive orders haven't made difference-i can garentee that claim can be disproven by any ffl holder in the nation. Everyone. If one says they haven't, I can assure you they don't have an ffl.

 

 

[Running Gator]

17 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

Obama and Hillary have said multiple times they want to ban guns. From their own mouths, on live TV. I don't see how anyone can say that isnt their end game, unless of course they have their heads buried in the sand, or just don't watch the news.

 

 

 

If they said these things multiple times on TV, then it should be a breeze for you to find a few links to support such a claim. 

[The_Patriot21]

On 9/1/2016 at 9:26 AM, Out of the Shadows said:

I buy and sell guns. It is no harder today than it was 8 years ago.  As I said I use guns as an investment option so I buy and sell them accordingly.  I call them meaningless because an executive action carries no weight of law behind it, it is really nothing more than a suggestion by the president. 

I would, but I have a feeling ID be wasting my time. Instead, I'm just going to suggest you start reading the news feed here, as they have been posted at least once if not twice.

[Running Gator]

23 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

I would, but I have a feeling ID be wasting my time. Instead, I'm just going to suggest you start reading the news feed here, as they have been posted at least once if not twice.

No links, then such a thing never happened. 

[Guest shiloh357]

Hillary is not coming out, and claiming to want to ban guns.  She is not dumb enough to  do that.  What she does is speak admirably of the Australian mandatory buy back of all guns.  What she does is support lawsuits being filed against gun manufacturers whose guns have been used in crimes and resulted in the deaths of individuals.

It would be like suing Ford and Jack Daniels because someone got behind the wheel drunk from Black Label #7 and ran over an innocent person.  But that's what Hillary wants to do to gun owners.  And the Left is in favor of obliterating what they call, "the gun culture" of our country.   And they will have an advocate in Hillary.   Hillary won't be revealed as the beast she is until she is elected, and that point, the stuff she couldn't say in the election, she will be free to say and do once president, and she will have a weak Congress that will not stop her.

[Kindle]

15 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

That would be a good skill to know.

yes it is

[other one]

3 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Hillary is not coming out, and claiming to want to ban guns.  She is not dumb enough to  do that.  What she does is speak admirably of the Australian mandatory buy back of all guns.  What she does is support lawsuits being filed against gun manufacturers whose guns have been used in crimes and resulted in the deaths of individuals.

It would be like suing Ford and Jack Daniels because someone got behind the wheel drunk from Black Label #7 and ran over an innocent person.  But that's what Hillary wants to do to gun owners.  And the Left is in favor of obliterating what they call, "the gun culture" of our country.   And they will have an advocate in Hillary.   Hillary won't be revealed as the beast she is until she is elected, and that point, the stuff she couldn't say in the election, she will be free to say and do once president, and she will have a weak Congress that will not stop her.

yes she has Shiloh,   she wants the Supreme Court to rule that guns are for a militia and not for individual people.....   Removing the right to bare arms for the individual person.  I've heard her say in both on the TV and on Radio interviews in the past.   Dianne Feinstein has said the same.

[FresnoJoe]

13 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said:

If they said these things multiple times on TV....
then it should be a breeze for you to find a few links to support such a claim.... 

Beloved

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Matthew 5:9

"Faith is taking the first step even when you can't see the whole staircase."  - Martin Luther King Jr.

President Barack Obama, joined by Vice President Joe Biden and gun violence victims, speaks in the East Room of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Jan. 5, 2016, about steps his administration is taking to reduce gun violence. Also on stage are stakeholders, and individuals whose lives have been impacted by the gun violence.

By Bettina Weiss | January 5, 2016 at 1:26 pm
 

This morning, President Barack Obama announced new executive actions to reduce gun violence. Since the Sandy Hook shooting in 2012, where 20 children and 6 adults were killed, the President has been pushing for new gun laws. Congress has rejected almost every single proposal despite recent shootings in Oregon, and most recently, in San Bernardino, California where 14 people were shot and killed last month.

In his remarks, President Obama focused on the immediate need to act. “We do have to feel a sense of urgency about it. Dr. King’s word, we need to feel the fierce urgency of now because people are dying and the constant excuses for inaction no longer do, no longer suffice. That’s why we’re here today. Not to debate the last mass shooting but to do something to prevent the next one.” http://genprogress.org/voices/2016/01/05/41698/president-obama-focuses-on-the-urgency-of-now-in-gun-violence-prevention-executive-announcements/?gclid=CK7g2Pze8s4CFVRZhgodLpINpA

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"Darkness cannot drive out darkness: Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: Only love can do that." -  Martin Luther King Jr.

Throughout his remarks, the President focused on common sense. “If we can set it up so you can’t unlock your phone unless you have the right fingerprint, why can’t we do the same for guns? If there’s an app that can help us find a missing tablet, which happens to me often the older I get, if we can do it for your iPad there’s no reason we can’t do it with a stolen gun,” he said. “If a child can’t open an aspirin, we should make sure they can’t pull a trigger on a gun.”

Obama also made a point to quote prominent conservative leaders including former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) to highlight the bipartisan support for background checks, which is one of the big focuses of his executive action.

A fact sheet detailing the executive actions was posted by the Office of the Press Secretary. “The President and Vice President are committed to using every tool at the Administration’s disposal to reduce gun violence. Some of the gaps in our country’s gun laws can only be fixed through legislation, which is why the President continues to call on Congress to pass the kind of commonsense gun safety reforms supported by the majority of the American people,” the memo explained. http://genprogress.org/voices/2016/01/05/41698/president-obama-focuses-on-the-urgency-of-now-in-gun-violence-prevention-executive-announcements/?gclid=CK7g2Pze8s4CFVRZhgodLpINpA

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But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Matthew 5:42-45

"Everybody can be great ... because anybody can serve. You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and verb agree to serve. You only need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love." - Martin Luther King Jr.

Executive orders are used to direct executive officers or clarify and further existing laws. “The lobby may be holding Congress hostage right now, but they can’t hold America hostage. We do not accept carnage as the price of freedom,” Obama said. Throughout history, Presidents have used executive orders and executive action in order to move on issues without the approval of Congress. Frustration with Congress has been a common theme recently. According to a Gallup poll from the beginning of December, 82 percent of people disapprove of Congress.

The president outlined four goals from the plan, including: keeping guns out of the wrong hands through background checks, making our communities safer from gun violence, increasing mental health treatment and reporting to the background check system, and shaping the future of gun safety technology. http://genprogress.org/voices/2016/01/05/41698/president-obama-focuses-on-the-urgency-of-now-in-gun-violence-prevention-executive-announcements/?gclid=CK7g2Pze8s4CFVRZhgodLpINpA

Love, Your Brother Joe